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[-] bolshevikLovelace@hexbear.net 15 points 17 hours ago

screenshot of a comment under the article, reads "Time for Western countries to shut down and defund not the police departments but Universities which gave up producing valid science, intellectuals. The Root cause are crackpot socialists and corporate commies."

seeing China's W's, maybe we need more corporate commies

[-] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 74 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

His main point isn't even true, China is installing more electric arc furnaces every year. As of January 2024, China has installed 151 million metric tons per year of operating EAF capacity, exceeding the 143 MMt/y needed to achieve the 15% EAF production target by 2025.

British steel, for comparison, has an operating (blast furnace) capacity of 5.9 MMt/year. Yet its going to take until 2032 for them to convert 4% of what China can do in a year? LMAO

So yes, they are winning in every imaginable way xi-lib-tears

[-] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 11 points 14 hours ago

British steel, for comparison,

An Indian company shut down British steel production last year

Ta ta!

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 13 hours ago

After the very same company nearly did the same to Poland you would think other countries would think twice before letting them have their strategic resource production but alas.

[-] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 36 points 1 day ago

lmao, that's more than Europe's total steel production. Keep cryin' colonizers

https://www.eurofer.eu/statistics/production-of-crude-steel

[-] RNAi@hexbear.net 85 points 1 day ago

The west is deindustrializing in the quest for Net Zero

Lmao thats a fucking lie

Wait, wait

The west is [...] in the quest for Net Zero

Still a fucking lie

[-] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 56 points 1 day ago

Net zero what? Net zero wage payments? Bc I know they’re not talking about hitting climate goals lol

[-] Zascoco@hexbear.net 30 points 1 day ago

The only net zeros goal that the west is actively pursuing is genociding every palestinians alive and other natives around the world.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 50 points 1 day ago

Must be nice to live in a country where people are actually put to work instead of your choice of unemployment or two minimum wage jobs (and even then good luck getting an interview) because porky is way too picky to hire anymore.

[-] Sausage@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago

I do hear that china has very high youth unemployment though but idk how the statistics are made if lots of those young people are in university or training I guess it’s not to bad

[-] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 6 points 16 hours ago

I remember looking it up and it was about the same as Europe but higher than the US.

[-] Sausage@hexbear.net 6 points 11 hours ago

It’s at 18.8% which is high here where I am it’s around 10%

[-] miz@hexbear.net 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

skimming this it looks like all of the deindustrialization he describes is due to profit-maximizing decisions, which he then pretends were made for environmental reasons

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 38 points 1 day ago

I have a feeling he is not an environmentally conscience person

[-] neo@hexbear.net 41 points 1 day ago

his implied point is cutting carbon emissions is bad

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 20 hours ago

This is probably inevitable tbh. Climate Change will affect the global south worse than the west. So at some point the west is going to actively try to make emissions worse in order to "punish" the rest of the world for opposing colonialism.

[-] neo@hexbear.net 6 points 15 hours ago

My read is not that. The "news" article is basically lamenting how the UK/Europe is handicapping itself "green" regulations, so their industry moves into evil China's realm. And that this action doesn't even do its purported goal of reducing CO2 emissions because he says that China "continues to build more new coal-fired power plants than the rest of the world combined."

I'm not sure if that claim is true, but his argument is not, "therefore we need to pass laws/tariffs on CO2-produced goods" for the sake of the planet. His point is the green regulations will enslave the west to China. Literally. "The inevitable end result will be subservience to China."

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 15 hours ago

I think you misunderstand me, I agree with your point. If anything I was going further than you were, I was saying that the west will actively increase emissions in order to make life harder for people in the global south as a form of "revenge" as the west slips into irrelevance on the international stage.

[-] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago

Mr. President, we must not allow a CO2 gap!

[-] Staines@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago

By the time the west has gone through its collapse phase, and begun to try something new socially and economically, it's going to be so far be behind.

Even from a purely nationalist chauvinist angle, neoliberalism has been an unmitigated disaster.

[-] pastalicious@hexbear.net 34 points 1 day ago
[-] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 42 points 1 day ago

Tons of CO2 particles that could have joined their friends and families in Earth's upper atmosphere but now aren't going to because the Chinese are genociding them with their "clean" (read "pure", obviously a dogwhistle for gas supremacy) technologies.

[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago

The righteous Carbon Liberation Front is being oppressed by the evil CCP!!!

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago

Carbon Control Party

:kelly:

[-] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago
[-] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago
[-] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago
[-] miz@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago
[-] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago

Summary:

The West Is Falling because our green energy is made by Chinese producers and because said green energy is weaker than fossil fuels because it’s too woke

Carbon emissions are still bad when the reds do it though cause they’re caring more about supplanting the international-community-1 Free World international-community-2 than about the environment because they still have coal power plants

The enemy is both woke and unwoke etc

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