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Also outs your report publicly, nice !

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[-] dev_null@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

And Lemmy has an issue with it's backend implementation which sometimes causes multiple copies of a comment being posted without the posters knowledge.

It then gets flagged as spam and the poster banned. Ask me how I know.

[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] dev_null@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

I searched for the issue when it happened to me and saw a bug report for it with the Lemmy devs confirming.

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

how do you know?

[-] idunnololz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

As someone who implement a Lemmy client it might be a client side problem. If the server is struggling you will time out when sending the comment. If the client side has any sort of retry logic it will send the comment again. This can cause the comment to be posted multiple times. There might be a bug on the server as well but I know for sure it can be caused by the client.

[-] dev_null@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's what you are describing, and it's not a client problem. It's impossible for a client to solve. You can't tell whether a timed out request succeeded or not.

Idempotent network requests are a standard feature of many APIs - sending the same request multiple times should result in only one action being performed, but Lemmy doesn't support them yet.

So yes, it's "caused" by retries, but the bug is that the backend doesn't properly support retries. Clients don't do anything wrong.

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

how do you know?

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

how do you know?

[-] ensignboilmer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

CLM - sounds like @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world needs to understand the tools a bit more given how active they are.

[-] Comment105@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

FlyingSquid needs to be booted from everything they mod.

[-] AreaSIX@lemm.ee -1 points 1 month ago

FlyingSquid is a pathetic human being, who seems to have little else in their life than banning anyone they disagree with. So, just a reddit mod. Question is, why would Lemmy have a chance to grow if it insists on having the same shitty structure as reddit, only with a fraction of a fraction of content that's available on reddit.

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Turns out I've blocked this user already. Are they a mod?

[-] ensignboilmer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Apparently so? They’re terminally online so it’s disappointing they don’t understand Lemmy better. Had it been almost any other user I wouldn’t have recognized the name at all.

[-] Throw_away_migrator@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

They’re terminally online

It's funny you say that. I have them tagged exactly as that after some comment thread they were in. Since I tagged them, it's unbelievable how often posts and comments from them show up in my feed

[-] Lightor@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Turns out me too, seems like they're just a shit person.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Silence! You dare question a mod of my abilities? Banned!

[-] Old_Yharnam@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

You jest, but many mods do actually have this mindset. It’s unreal

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

PTB, (or maybe just "clueless bastard"?): Ye publicly outing your report because they don't understand lemmy is pretty bad.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Squid can be a little quirky like that sometimes.

[-] waz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Sometimes? They are the only person I have ever blocked in all of my years on both reddit or lemmy. Such an odd combination of self importance, rage, entitlement and ego.

I'd almost forgotten about them until they showed up in a screenshot for being exactly how I remember.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

quirky

*holds up ban spork*

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

PTB. Squid is a prolific poster, but seems to take things personally very quickly.

If you're going to abuse your powers, you should do so by abstract principles, like whether or not a commenter likes pineapple on their pizza, not how they react towards you!

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

PTB, publicly outing reports and trying to intimidate them is not cool, if you want to discuss someone's reports with them, do it in their DMs.

Also here's a tip for any admin or mod wishing to discuss the report with someone. Quote the report you're addressing. I can't see my own reports, so if an admin or mod wanted to discuss the last reports I made, it's possible I would have to think really hard to remember what he was talking about, or just flat out not remember. Because I do make a lot of reports, unfortunately, as there is a lot of problematic content and users out there.

Edit: I did make an issue in the Lemmy GitHub requesting this feature, so if you agree that this could be useful I suggest you go express the desire for such a feature over there. I included being able to edit and delete reports, but if that's too much at least the ability to read my own reports I've sent.

Example of a DM that a Mod or admin could use to address reports with someone

Text from report

(can include multiple reports here with gaps between them as needed)

[content of their message addressing the report to the user]

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Why is it whenever I notice a mod, or see anyone complain about a mod, it's always the exact same mod?

Are all Lemmy mods chill except this singular prickly tranch?

[-] BestTestInTheWest@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Is that person a mod? I blocked them and my lemmy experience has been way better.

[-] waz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Same. Literally the only person I've blocked. I also made sure to leave every community they mod. Certainly a vibe I could do without.

[-] lulztard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

In my experience, mods in general have gotten extremely bad. Lemmy, reddit, basically all social media is being moderated without the least amount of professionality, standard or competency.

[-] lath@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

That's because professionality, standard and competency take time to foster and cost a lot to maintain.

[-] derpgon@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

And usually get paid nothing.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Are we supposed to be elite professionals on our salaries of $0.00?

[-] lulztard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yes. If you can't be professionell and have standards, don't do it.

[-] Breezy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Then YOU should do it! They provide a free service that you use, yeah some mods suck ass, or most whatever, but they have to ACTUALLY monitor some times a bunch of instances. Idk if its still an issue but imagine all the child porn and other SUPER hateful shit that has to be deleted with haste.

I dont mind squid, yeah he kinda seems like a dick some times, but we benefit from them being constantly online. So yeah they might have been a dick, whats the next move? Try to remove them where some other dickwad will just take their place, could be better but for mods its always going to be worse when a new mod gets all power tripping on people.

[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 0 points 1 month ago

The good thing is that on the fediverse, you can improve this situation. Either go to an instance that keeps a watchful eye on power tripping mods and ensure mods are fair, or start your own instance to become that.

[-] refalo@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago

you'll still get filtered by those mods on other instances and the amount of visibility your comment has will go down. lemmy has already gotten fragmentation problems like this for similar reasons IMO

[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 0 points 1 month ago

But if those mods are bad and your mods are good, then people will over time go to your instance instead. You can't control visibility of your stuff on another instance. It wouldn't be decentralized if you could. Other instances and users can always choose to block you or whatever.

What you call "fragmentation" is really just decentralization and it's the whole point of the fediverse.

[-] Delta_V@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

people will over time go to your instance instead

what instance? never heard of it.

[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 0 points 1 month ago

The instance that I mentioned in my first comment, the one with a watchful eye on moderators. It is not a concrete instance, I am talking about an example.

[-] Delta_V@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

there's no feedback mechanism that will result in the promotion of instances with better moderation

the federation system is inherently unstable - there's a positive feedback loop where the instance with the most users attracts the most new users. new users have no to way to gauge the quality of moderation of an instance, and neither do disgruntled current users. additionally, members of smaller instances are less visible, which is an incentive to join a larger instance.

"what instance?" is a rhetorical question, and the only possible answer is "never heard of it." because there is no means by which a user could have become aware of other instances, regardless of the quality of those other instance's moderation

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

Threads like this usually get quite viral

https://lemmy.world/post/16211417

[-] satans_methpipe@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

I'm so glad I finally made an account so I can block that particular reddit-type user. Might have to bounce instances based on how this goes.

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io -1 points 1 month ago

They allow dis- & misinformation on a news community and threaten you when you report even the most obvious Tankie propaganda, which is why I blocked it. Not the only dumb take I've seen from them.

[-] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 0 points 1 month ago

The called out mod specifically is the worst culprit. I guarantee if their mod privileges were revoked 85% of the bad rep .world gets would vanish.

[-] spookedintownsville@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago
[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago

Yeah, but I'm not convinced it's anyone in particular to blame. I think it's mostly because it's the biggest instance. That's just my take. I don't necessarily think the folks you're responding to would agree.

I think a lot of instances have a bad rep with users of at least one instance just because so many instances are ideologically similar.

[-] spookedintownsville@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

That's what I believed it to be. Still better than .ml which is where I was before.

[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago

it's where most people flocked to during Da Great Reddit Exodus, so there's a lot of latent redditor behavior there. Anecdotally, my Lemmy experience has gotten significantly better after I started blocking every .world channel on sight.

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