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Mushroom discovery (lemmy.world)

That was a roller-coaster...

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[-] Kalothar@lemmy.fmhy.ml 92 points 1 year ago

Well, IIRC there were stages to trying new things, kinda like:

Test 1: rub plant on forearm, see if it has a reaction. Test 2: eat small piece of plant/thing to see reaction Test 3: eat progressively larger pieces and rinse and repeat

This is probably only in survival situations

[-] anotherlemmyuser@lemmy.ml 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

knowing how cruel humans can be, need to add:

  • force feed enemy or captured animal -> wait and see
[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 13 points 1 year ago

Dogs and kids are also suitable test objects.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

I feel like dogs and kids are best described as ultra voluntary test subjects, they will try their damndest to eat the thing and you can certainly try your best to stop it.

[-] Kalothar@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Oh, yeah definitely, haven’t thought of that before haha

[-] Lumidaub@feddit.de 23 points 1 year ago

Someone must have developed that technique though - most likely through trial and error.

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

what doesn't kill me makes me trip

[-] SinJab0n@mujico.org 2 points 1 year ago

Or get a direct meeting with god !

Wait, why does it has tentacles ?

[-] breakfastburrito@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago

They’d also dilute them in water and drink progressively less dilute solutions. Also, as other people mentioned, notice what other bugs and animals are eating.

[-] Kalothar@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Smart smart, it’s crazy how much you can figure out when you know what to look for

It's also more realistic to think that humans gained this knowledge from their ancestors. It's more likely humans learned these things from other humanoid species

[-] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
[-] 5redie8@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

If I remember correctly, iirc

[-] Skyhighatrist@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

YDIFRC (You do, in fact, remember/recall correctly.)

[-] RustedSwitch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

If I remember correctly

[-] coffinspire@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

If I recall correctly

[-] treefrog@lemm.ee 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

i grow mushrooms outside and do some foraging.

if a mushroom is covered in bugs it's probably edible. centipedes, fungus gnats, and slugs are all common on my outdoor beds.

there are a few edible fungi i don't see bugs eat, like meatier varieties such as shiitake and saddle backs, but i have never seen bugs go after poisonous fungi

some bugs will eat psychedelic fungi just like some animals will. but there tends to be less predation with them.

[-] Neil@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

I read somewhere this is how humans most likely learned what is good and bad to eat. Just need to see something else eating it and it's most likely good.

[-] Onionizer@geddit.social 5 points 1 year ago

Except theres lots of berries birds can eat but we don't

[-] gonzo0815@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

I'm also a forager and I think this is a very dangerous and irresponsible thing to say.

Please never rely on that advice if you ever go mushroom foraging. There is no short cut here.

[-] treefrog@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

i said probably and my point was made in the context of the meme. it wasn't advice on safe foraging but an observation on how early humans may have made intelligent guesses before we had reliable guide books and the internet.

[-] where_am_i@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

your shiitake is not being eaten cuz it's very far from native species in your area. I'm sure where it originally grows bugs feast on them non stop

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[-] Dohnakun@lemmy.fmhy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Uhm, flies go after fly agaric.

[-] Kalothar@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

And fly agaric isnt very poisonous, as long as it’s dehydrated

[-] nigh7y@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

Sometimes I think about things like this when it comes to cheese and fermented stuff. Like, who was the first guy to work out that you can get rotten food and either get high off it or get tasty stuff out of them?

[-] kevin@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago
[-] AlaskaMan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

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[-] Saneless@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

At some point if you're starving enough it's eat this and maybe die or don't eat this and definitely die

[-] TheLobotomist@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I like your pragmatism

[-] Heisl@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago

Hear me out, what if the Bible prophecies and the whole concept happened because they tried something new and were just trippin out?

[-] AstroKevin@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Crazy enough, the Bible wasnt written all at once. The Bible was written over a span of approximately 1,300 years (depending on your historical, linguistic, and theological beliefs of course).

  • The Old Testament, also known as the Hebrew Bible, was written between approximately the 12th century BC and the 2nd century BC.
  • The New Testament was written in the first century AD, from approximately AD 50 to AD 100.

So probably a bit of the old testament could have been written while under the influence of mushrooms as that's when we were experimenting with wild mushrooms.

But what do I know, the picture says I died from mushrooms.

[-] KluEvo@wirebase.org 8 points 1 year ago

Lmao I literally did a double take with your name and the post

[-] SinJab0n@mujico.org 2 points 1 year ago

Oh great, u r still alive! Mow the timeline is fuck up, thanks KEVIN

[-] b3nsn0w@pricefield.org 10 points 1 year ago

that's pretty clearly how the book of revelations was written

[-] Selmafudd@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Literally ever time I'm tripping I always think the whole religion thing is just so people have some inspiration to drawn from if it starts going bad.. like call in an angel or some shit to save your ass

[-] Yaks@lemmy.fmhy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

There are old mushroom hunters and bold mushroom hunters. But no old, bold mushroom hunters.

[-] BobbyBandwidth@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

These people laid the ground work for me to trip balls

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[-] YoungPrinceAmmon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Actually there's interesting theory how eating magic mushrooms speeded or even shaped development of consciousness in our ancestors.

[-] SwiggitySwole@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

Stoned Ape Theory, but it's most likely just speculation.

[-] MrSluagh@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

You mean it is speculation, and is most likely false

[-] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

Don't the poisonous ones specifically taste bitter

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 18 points 1 year ago

IDK. I never ate one. You wanna try it and report back?

[-] webghost0101@lemmy.fmhy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

The supposed logic here is that the human genes that liked the taste of some toxic plants died out.

It can help in a survival pinch to weed out your options but I wouldn’t rely on it as a guaranteed truth.

[-] pedro@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I don't think so but they take 48 to 72h to kill you though

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

The psylocibin containing ones also only make you "see god" for about 6-8h, too. Not a very scientific meme, but funny.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Think about how much shit you have to do to make cheese. Or bread.

How did people figure that shit out? At some point I have to think that people were just mixing everything together and seeing what happened. Sometimes they made tasty food. Sometimes they made something useful. Sometimes they made poisonous gas. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[-] Methylman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Why did my mind automatically imagine the guy trying to find how to make farts edible

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[-] Deerhorne@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

RIP Kevin. Never forget.

[-] variants@possumpat.io 5 points 1 year ago

There'd a scene in the show Norsemen that is exactly this https://youtu.be/SVWix8DjM4M

[-] cokane_88@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Love me some home grown shrooms, undried is the best trip.... Great for a migraine too..

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