What’s up with Canadians? You guys are getting so racist even I’m starting to hear about your bullshit (hexbear.net)

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Prefer you’d just pipe down and go back to being irrelevant

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[-] MuinteoirSaoirse@hexbear.net 53 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

"Getting?" Canada's racism is foundational. A bunch of trading corporations "given" supreme legislative authority over half of a continent that only became a country in order to cement the capital accumulation of railway investors who decided the best way to build their railways uninterrupted was slavery, primarily sino-immigrant labour, and torture schools with backyard mass graves. Literally had a "whites-only" immigration policy for like a hundred years, and now it's a points system that is held up internationally as a gold standard despite being nearly indistinguishable from the Kafala system in the Gulf.

[-] Hexboare@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

coolie labour

I'm not sure if you're trying to reclaim this but I think it's a fairly offensive slur

[-] MuinteoirSaoirse@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Ah, sorry in certain activism circles it's pretty standard to continue to use that term (as well as Indian, rather than Indigenous) when trying to highlight Canada's history of institutionalized racism, I didn't consider how people in other contexts may just be unhappy/hurt to see the word. I've edited it.

[-] Lussy@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Co*lie is one of those old timey slurs that goes way back to the Victorian era, used primarily by Brits against Indians. It’s kind of weird it’s still being used today, in activism circles no less. It was infamously referred to in Gandhi’s autobiography, when he talks about what he was being called in the railway station in Cambridge.

The more I learn about Kkklanadians the more I’m weirded about you guys

[-] MuinteoirSaoirse@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

It's because the actual institutional language used the term, so marginalized groups often continue to bring to the forefront the language the government employed (or still employs, in the case of Indian) as a way to combat the post-90s "liberal mosaic/colourblind" narrative that permeates Canadian society. Canada exists in this ahistorical cultural vortex where slavery was an American problem (they stress that the Underground Railroad led to here, but ignore that at the exact same time Canadians had their own slaves and it was border laws that "freed" slaves coming North, not an anti-slavery sentiment, and rarely teach about Canadian slavery at all) and work camps were a British problem (don't look at what Canada did to Asian immigrants please) and residential schools are only recently even talked about at all.

It's about rejecting this false ideal Canada has that it "solved racism" or whatever because it was always "more progressive" than America (please ignore that the country was founded by Orange Order racists, that the RCMP exists to wage war on the Indigenous population, and that the KKK chapters here flourished without scrutiny).

Anyway, that particular word is used a lot when addressing Canadian foundational myths, which are built on the idea of the railway (and especially the Canadian Pacific Railway) as this great nation-building project that allowed Confederation. What that myth most often ignores is the work camps of sino-immigrants, the violent occupation of the West and the consolidation of the industrial bourgeoisie as the ruling class as they ousted the old feudal order.

It's a term used less in a reclamatory way by Asian academics and activists, and more in a way that forces acknowledgement of the racist legislative bodies of the country. There's a lot to be said about the way pejoratives can be used in different contexts, but, especially online where you can't know anything about the person on the other end, it's usually best to avoid them altogether so as not to cause unintentional hurt, for which I apologize.

[-] frauddogg@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

and that the KKK chapters here flourished without scrutiny).

The what

I genuinely thought they were just our problem to deal with you mean to tell me you got klan up there too????

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

Oh, it's a universal anglo problem, we've got them here in Australia too.

[-] MuinteoirSaoirse@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah that's what Canada wants people to think, but unfortunately: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/sunday/the-sunday-magazine-for-november-22-2020-1.5807350/the-rise-of-the-ku-klux-klan-in-canada-and-why-its-lasting-impact-still-matters-1.5807353

"In just a year, the group became the largest and the fastest growing social organization in the country"

""You had rallies where you had five, 10, 15, 20,000 people who would show up at these Klan meetings in places like Kingston and Belleville, London, Hamilton," said Bartley."

[-] Lussy@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

Very informative, thank you.

I know jack shit about Canada, and I’d like to keep it that way, but this is a good perspective to learn.

[-] Frigg@hexbear.net 46 points 3 weeks ago

You shouldn't be surprised, this is the country that overruled the Nuremberg Trials so that they wouldn't have to reckon with having recruited a shitload of Ukrainian nazis after WWII. You might remember the recent fuss about the entire Canadian House of Commons giving a standing ovation to one of them.

[-] Cutecity@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

I read the article but I don't understand enough to get how any of it overrules the Nuremberg Trials, can you give me a hint?

[-] ItsPequod@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

Just scanned through, 2nd to last paragraph:

While the commission's final report stated that the numbers were grossly exaggerated, the report admitted that it had not investigated materials kept either in the Soviet Union or Eastern Bloc countries, and that it further had not investigated an addendum list of 109 names provided late in the inquiry. Further still, it was later revealed that the commission withheld evidence and ignored the findings of other war crimes trials, such as the Nuremberg trials.

[-] Cutecity@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

Yes thank you, makes sense

[-] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 42 points 3 weeks ago

Canada got by for a long time by an international reputation for being apologetic and polite, but if you want to see how bad it can get here, ask the average Canadian their feelings about first nations or immigrants. I would easily say 3/4 of this country believes immigrants are the reason for the intense cost of living crisis no matter how much proof or arguments to the contrary

[-] OrionsMask@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

ask the average Canadian their feelings about first nations or immigrants.

As per everywhere else in the west, crackers just want an excuse to hate POC and immigration is the mechanism by which they can frothingfash openly.

[-] Fishroot@hexbear.net 33 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Canada is a dollar store version of the US, they compensate for not being the united states by amplifying all the political and cultural trends from their southern masters.

Calling Canada a petro state is being generous, it’s an outpost for extraction. It’s a gulf state in becoming that has slavery but none of the UBI. It’s a financial sponge that perpetuates a real estate bubble. All of it is duct taped together with a “nation project” written by Mc Kenzie and Deloitte

Canada is legit what Milei’s argentina but for all political spectrum

[-] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 32 points 3 weeks ago

They’re not getting more racist they’re just getting worse at pr theory-gary

[-] ComradeSpahija@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

i-think-that

[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago

Wait you mean a white supremacist settler colony has racists

[-] miz@hexbear.net 21 points 3 weeks ago

wait, the home of "starlight tours" is getting racist?!?

[-] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 21 points 3 weeks ago

getting

[-] dkr567@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Kkkanada is just as racist as the one below (living here as an east asian descent), they are a bit quieter in showing their overt racism while being very passive agressive as fuck (speaking specifically of majority of white Canadians) from my experiences along with the usual nazisms from the federal government.

[-] MohammedTheCommunistPalestinian@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago

Colonizers

[-] sexywheat@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

What did we do this time? Was it the UN stating that our temporary foreign worker program is basically just modern slavery, or something else?

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

Walking around Canada and wondering why my hitler-detector won't stop going off

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

Idk... they've been not only been constructed as cuck British settler-colonial nation that embraces fascists, but also are at the forefront of superseding Amerikkka in blindly accusing many countries (China, India, Russia, Iran) of foreign interference, and are the most pro-NATO puppets ("brave" when not facing the brunt)

God damn, something in this country must've been scratched HARD, in order to reveal its ass...