Makes me wonder how many electric car batteries worth of lithium and rare earth metals is just lying in gutters around the world.

There used to be a massive market of regular battery/tank style vapes and juices. Around 2020 they started cracking down on flavored vaping stuff and it killed almost the entire market of vapes at the time, and left a void that is only filled now by countless disposables companies with strong as hell 5% juice. There’s simply no good options anymore if you don’t want a high concentrate disposable

Agreed.

But I just know we would get the what about muh freedom crowd who thinks freedoms should include the right to destroy yourself and everyone around you and the environment.

I sometimes wonder if the Love Canal had happened in modern America, if we would have had a movement to force it cleaned up, or if we would have a bunch of mouth-breathers demanding their right to spend too much for land tainted with industrial wastes.

Anyways, congrats to you all for putting a lid on this menace.

EU needs to step in

I'll miss all the free rechargeable lithium cells too, but there's plenty of garbage vapes to keep us busy for ages as it is.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking of Big Clive and his lithium battery harvesting videos

what do you mean? there's a million refillable options out there. have been for years. the popularity of disposables is mostly about convenience, habit (it's similar to buying cigarettes), and laziness. it's a great example of how much people just don't give a shit. it's actually waaaay cheaper in the long run to use a refillable one. gives a better experience with more flavor options too. but it's maybe 5% less convenient to use. therefore only about 5% of users go for that.

i fucking hate human nature.

i have like 5 friends in trying to convince away from the disposables right now. I'm 3 years in, and may have one that would be willing to try it i bought it for him. it's so fucking hard to change anyone's buying habits. i don't get why. these are all people that SAY they care about the environment. then i show them an easy to fix way that they are FUCKING INCREDIBLY AWFUL to the environment and they just shrug...

Haven't rechargeable ones been available way longer than disposable ones?

Denmark is a bit different though. They've cracked down on all flavours except menthol and tobacco, and they've taxed it similar to cigarettes. The UK is only banning disposable vapes.

We should build some kind of a moat around the UK. If we manage that, while not full proof, I have no doubt that banning it in the UK will be easier to do than somewhere without a moat.

Is that not already a thing over there? Refillable tanks with replaceable coils and batteries have been a thing for over a decade in the states. They were the original vaping devices as far as I know. Then companies started making this “disposable” crap.

You've got the eco friendly alternative.

What do you think people were vaping with before the disposable vapes?

Genuinely interested, how would you go about doing that?