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[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 21 points 18 hours ago

Okay, now let's unironically do North America... because it's pretty clear who was here first, if we're using the exact same time frames.

I mean, the brazenness is appalling.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 45 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Going to Michigan to do hasbara in personi-cant

They are trying to lose

[-] Dr_Gabriel_Aby@hexbear.net 30 points 20 hours ago

125 AD - 1947 AD never happened

[-] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 47 points 21 hours ago

Also: "Harris said she'll try to negotiate an end to the violence. That oughta be enough."

JFC this guy is supposedly a huge genius of campaigning? Maybe the Clintons really are trying to sabotage Harris

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 5 points 16 hours ago

Maybe the Clintons really are trying to sabotage Harris

They are in yet anther swanky hotel room paid for by some Kamala PAC. Hillary has the remote in her hand which is always dangerous. She changes the channel to CNN. Kamala is onscreen walking and waving.

"It was my turn." Hillary says to the tv. But Bill knows his role is to say something. To go through the minefield of possible comments without getting a limb blown off.

"Honey, we should order from room service before they close down." Changing the subject is a risky play because it might be the wrong thing. But in this case it probably worked.

"Yeah," she says stewing.

"Where's the that menu at?" Bill says with a bit of levity.

Hillary continues to stare at the tv with anger.

[-] YoungSheldonAdelson@hexbear.net 73 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

CW for childhood bs and brief mention of billdawg, racism/white supremacy

All right, this is finally something I have wanted to talk about for a while. I grew up in the US in the-other-South in one of those interim Protestant marginally pro-zionist households with a church and family that was trending toward MAGA evangelical Christianity and all that entails. As a young geography nerd(geography bee school champion in the 5th grade nbd nbd) I might have been more clued into this stuff than I should have been which is why I even asked my family about Israel in the first place. These fully grown adults told me that the Israelis in Israel were the same Israelis that we read about in the Bible in church and Sunday school every week. Forgive me, but lying to children is bad. And a sin, if you believe in that sort of thing. Matthew 18:6

I think it is worth dissecting the lie and to contextualize where it came from. Otherwise, we will wind up confused, like our dear President Lolita Express. What you are hearing from Bill here is the lie that US Christians have been telling themselves for the past 50 years to protect their white supremacy and commit and contribute to genocide without ever having to feel bad or reflect on it.

My grandfather served in the US military during WWII, but didn't go overseas. When I knew him he couldn't get enough of the History Channel WWII docs. He once got mad at a Sikh person for wearing a turban on Wheel of Fortune and immediately became irate that Pat Sajak would allow a Muslim person on his favorite game show, like 8 years after 9/11.

We wouldn't really talk about Israel or Jewish people in our household or church but what we did talk about was Jesus' apocalyptic return. This is the pre-internet 90s, everything I know comes from the people around me. And these people, my family, told frightening stories. What I knew about Jewish people is that they were going to hell for not being Christian, same with the Mormons and the JWs and everyone else.

My aunt was addicted to those Left Behind novels, we watched the movie Tribulation with Gary Busey half a dozen times. In our household, the End Times were upon us, imminently. But in the meantime, our church began bringing in wackier and wackier speakers, evolution and stem cell therapies were a hot topic for denouncement from the pulpit every Sunday. And we celebrated sending missionaries to Ukraine(true story). As it turns out, it was always just about white supremacy, our city landmark church had been a meeting place for the KKK in the 50s, and in the 80s my grandmother had led the movement to resegregate the black and white Baptist congregations in our city, which was successful as I don't think I ever saw a black person in that church. One of the Republican state senators who wrote my state's anti-trans 'bathroom bill' was a prominent member there.

This is all to say that I had no idea what a Palestinian was until maybe 2010. I've learned a lot since then.

(I am going to continue a little later. Full sending this first half before my screen goes blank.)

[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 31 points 21 hours ago

So says the guy who lives on Mohegan land. Gee I wonder where the name Chappaqua comes from.

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 36 points 22 hours ago
[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 59 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"Want to kill Israelis" hundreds of thousands of palestinians are dead. Famine so bad IPC classification It estimates that 677,000 people, or 32% of all Gazans, are in “catastrophic” conditions today and a further 41% are in “emergency” conditions. It expects fully half of Gazans, more than 1 million people, to be in “catastrophe” or “famine” within weeks. "comparison, the worst famine on the IPC record books struck Somalia in 2011, through a combination of war, drought and a shutoff in aid. At its nadir, 490,000 people were in “catastrophe” conditions with a larger number in “emergency” conditions. An estimated 258,000 people perished over 18 months."

"Make israel uninhabitable " "It could take 350 years for Gaza to rebuild if it remains under a blockade, UN report says

Shut up

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 20 points 20 hours ago

But have you considered that the real victims are the genocidal settlers whom Hamas didn’t even put up at the Ritz???

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 78 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If people ever wonder what Germany would have been like today if the Nazis had won, all you have to do is to look at America.

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 16 points 19 hours ago

I don't know how people generally feel about the show The Man in the High Castle but the best part for me at the start was how similar Nazi 1950's US was to American 1950's US. If it weren't for the swastikas and the heils, you would still think the Allies won the war.

Pretty fucking spot-on.

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 48 points 23 hours ago

So I assume all the settlers will be moving out of the US and back to Europe immediately? After all, the Native American peoples were there first.

[-] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 13 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Are you asking this in a pro-zionist way or are you genuinely curious what people think about landback?

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 28 points 21 hours ago

They were being sarcastic

[-] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 24 points 21 hours ago

I think they were pointing out how the logic is inconsistent even on its own terms

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Yes, very sarcastic as FuckyWucky said. They always make these sorts of claims for other people but never apply the same standard to themselves. I do want to be clear that I don't think that the zionist claims have any merit. Lots of people have lived there throughout history and the idea that one of them deserves to build an ethnostate and exterminate everyone else is horrific.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 130 points 1 day ago

Bill Clinton just endorsed unlimited genocide on americans because they weren't there first.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 46 points 1 day ago

That is a shit tonne of work for the poor natives. Better put the settlers on a diet first.

[-] dkr567@hexbear.net 39 points 1 day ago

Fucking Clinton crime family, all of those fuckers are just despicable.

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 49 points 1 day ago

Those are Zionist talking points to justify colonialism, there’s no connection to the current settlers occupying Palestine.

Also, Bill “Epstein” Clinton should stop breathing.

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 27 points 23 hours ago

Thank you Ben-Gvir

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 61 points 1 day ago

I'll fedpost for you 07

Bill clinton, I hope you get yamagami -d

[-] Prefeitura@lemmy.eco.br 82 points 1 day ago

Fucking idiot. Then nowaday's americans should also be stripped of their possessions an thrown away from their houses because the original folks were there first? Indigenous people are still being targeted for murder, maybe they should defend themselves by bulldozing entire cities and reclaiming the territory. This animal.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 65 points 1 day ago

According to Ayn Rand and many of her cult's followers like Alan Greenspan, the First Nations didn't "use the land correctly" therefore they were invalid occupants.

Colonialism will use any sophistry necessary to murder and loot.

[-] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 49 points 1 day ago

The whole “the land wasn’t being used” is pretty much the oldest justification for colonialism, it goes back to Locke and those other freaks

[-] huf@hexbear.net 39 points 1 day ago

step 1: genocide them
step 2: the land reverts to wilderness since you genocided the people who tended it
step 3: look, they arent even using it! IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE!

[-] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 27 points 22 hours ago

Colonizers were also famously unable to recognize indigenous agriculture for what it was because it was so labor-efficient and integrated with local ecosystems. I’d imagine this extends to most aspects of indigenous life, even among the larger more centralized civilizations.

[-] Des@hexbear.net 18 points 21 hours ago

"weird how these eastern chestnut forests are a garden of eden even if we are too stupid to know how to use them"

[-] booty@hexbear.net 58 points 1 day ago

maybe they should defend themselves by bulldozing entire cities and reclaiming the territory

knight-nod

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 5 points 18 hours ago

Imagine if indigenous people started stealing lil white kids from their homes, forcing them into indoctrination schools, and then destroying all history of whatever cultural heritage generic white people can claim.

People would lose their minds

[-] regul@hexbear.net 76 points 1 day ago

They are telling you loudly and clearly that they do not want your vote.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 63 points 1 day ago

Its funny to me that people think being a Rhodes Scholar is a prestigious thing. Every one I know of is a complete idiot ghoul

[-] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 22 points 22 hours ago

I used to serve some Rhodes Scholars every summer. All I ever saw them do was listen to lectures and then talk about them over food. Is that all it is? Because I know a few Discords where crusty ass socialists sit and do that all day long.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 54 points 1 day ago

It may even be a red flag because it seems like it's a crony position given to fail kids so they don't stay fail kids.

[-] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 11 points 20 hours ago

~~so they don't stay fail kids~~ so they keep failing upwards

[-] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago

Damn why don’t we have tony Abbott emoji

i coulda sworn we had him in the speed dealer sunnies but now i cant find it so i guess not shrug-outta-hecks

[-] Andrzej3K@hexbear.net 56 points 1 day ago

If blood and soil mattered — which it shouldn't unless you are a literal fucking fascist ffs I mean jfc — the Palestinians have the best claim to being the descendents of those tribes anyway.

[-] Piment@hexbear.net 45 points 1 day ago
[-] pancake@lemmygrad.ml 59 points 1 day ago

So if one calls a country "Roman Empire" that means they were there before and have a right over the entire Mediterranean?

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 50 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"yes" "absolutely"

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

epstein I'm still blackmailed to death by Pissreal so you have to support them too!

Berating people for the crime of compassion. Bold move, Cotton. Idk if I were kamala-coconut-tree I'd try to keep the Esptien particles as far away from my campaign as possible. But this is Kopmala so......

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago

Monica Lewinsky did nothing wrong unlimited blue dresses on the Clinton household

[-] AnarchoAnarchist@hexbear.net 21 points 21 hours ago

As a kid in the '90s, I had absorbed all of the jokes about Monica. As I grew up I didn't really examine it or think about it.

Now, as I'm hitting middle-age, I look back on that time. All of the tasteless jokes, all of the anger towards this woman, and I feel nothing but burning hatred for the Clinton media machine.

Yes she was an adult, but she is a victim. Not just of sexual assault, not just of the kind of workplace sexual harassment that would make Bill O'Reilly say "woah dude, calm down" - but of a media machine that will happily throw any of us into the wood chipper in order to protect their access to powerful people.

Linda Tripp can still burn in hell though.

[-] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 1 day ago

This but unironically. She was sexually assaulted by her insanely powerful boss who should be rotting in the clink instead of standing at the podium

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