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[-] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 155 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Big rainbow capitalism in June, but worried about "Brands align their ads with content that reflects their brand values." dollars the rest of the year.

Sorry my existence does not align with brand values. That must be really rough for you Twitch.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 weeks ago

I guess we have reached a social austerity phase of oligarchy.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 109 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The two genders, white cishet male and political.

[-] medgremlin@midwest.social 32 points 3 weeks ago

I explained the concept of there being the two genders of "cis-male" and "political" to one of my professors at a religious university and he was actually interested to hear me out on it because he had never thought of it in that paradigm. I'm absolutely not saying that everyone can be convinced, but some people can be nudged in the right direction if you have a good rapport with them.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 15 points 3 weeks ago

Most of the time, people change their minds when they see the source as coming from their in-group. If your professor respected you, they're more likely to listen to you. If they see you as some damn hippy out-group, it doesn't matter how many facts or studies or testimonies you have.

It's kind of a fundamental problem with humanity.

[-] medgremlin@midwest.social 6 points 3 weeks ago

I have gotten pretty good at weaseling my way into in-groups despite being a queer socialist with strong opinions about human rights, unions, and civil rights. It took a lot of trial and error though.

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[-] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 60 points 3 weeks ago

I looked at the rules and it says:

Labeling not required:

Streams containing informational or educational content that aim to share knowledge in a neutral, fact-based manner, rather than engaging in any kind of advocacy for an issue or candidate. For example, sharing the history of how votes in the US presidential election are counted to determine the next President, or merely encouraging individuals to vote or register to vote.

So saying for example Trump is a homophobic fascist should be allowed

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 30 points 3 weeks ago

Just because it's true doesn't mean it's not advocacy.

Propagandizing and "sharing knowledge in a neutral, fact-based manner" aren't mutually exclusive. The atomic unit of propaganda isn't lies, it's emphasis.

Propaganda and sharing knowledge in a neutral, fact-based manner are absolutely mutually exclusive.

Propaganda is biased by definition.

[-] underwire212@lemm.ee 12 points 3 weeks ago

I’m a giant media conglomerate.

I have two facts that I intend to share in a neutral manner (and, for the case of this hypothetical, we will assume that “sharing knowledge in a 100% completely neutral, fact-based manner” is even possible).

I will call these Fact A and Fact B.

During the Super Bowl, I denote 30 seconds of airtime to Fact A, and denote only 5 seconds of airtime to Fact B.

Question: is this propaganda?

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago

There is no unbiased "neutral", why particular facts are important and how they should be presented is determined by your biases.

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[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

True neutrality, yes. But the average person sees neutrality as the appearance of neutrality, which is what propaganda revels in. It's why any both sides arguments are inherently propaganda on many topics, because just the very act of attempting to appear like there are two valid sides is in and of itself propaganda.

Climate change is a perfect example of this. Anthropogenic climate change is happening and even the oil companies are having to admit it publicly (after knowing about it for at least 60 years, but we've known this was an issue since 1890), but there are still tons of places who bring on denialists after yet another year of 'record breaking, once in a lifetime's storms.

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[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 33 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, that's why the Fediverse is preferable to centralised social media. Use PeerTube for streaming, not YouTube or Twitch.

[-] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 weeks ago

Is there a Fediverse option for livestreams?

[-] FalseDiamond@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago

There's also PeerTube which supports live streams and even supports distributing a sizable portion of the load via P2P. Clients can seed your stream and distribute it themselves, lightening the load on your server. I've used it a few times, it's very neat and it works well. Only con is the latency (it's around 2 minutes like old school twitch)

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[-] servobobo@feddit.nl 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Bezos going all-in on the fascists

[-] waz@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago

As someone who has watched less than an hour of anything on twitch, I guess I'm going to change my avoidance of the site from passive to active.

[-] smeenz@lemmy.nz 12 points 3 weeks ago

And for my part, I will continue to have never used it.

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[-] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago

Let me be the first to say that it is amazing that Twitch is even still alive and honestly if they got kicked off of Amazon Web Services, they’d be done for.

Their moderation is historically the worst of almost any platform I’ve ever seen. It seems like every six months or so I hear about something heinous that their moderation teams have done.

Off the top of my head I remember the hot tub controversy, the female nipple thing, the tasteful or artistic nudity thing, the extremely inconsistent ban times for large vs small creators, the awful VOD mute controversies, the VOD deleting, forced ads being mishandled, covering for Dr Disrespect, and general sexism that isn’t even consistent.

Twitch is a dumpster fire on their mod team. All the dang time. One week someone will accidentally show porn on stream and get a 3 day ban, the next week my favorite streamer will show a glimpse of a bare ass from a mod in a game for 0.5 seconds and receive the same 3 day ban. That actually happened. How is it that you have soft core porn on your website and yet you’re banning people for showing too much cheek for a handful of frames?

[-] kungen@feddit.nu 33 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

if they got kicked off of Amazon Web Services, they’d be done for.

You know that Amazon bought Twitch many years ago, right? And they still own it.

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[-] SlippiHUD@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

Jeff Bezos must really think (and want) Trump is going to get his dictator for life wish. Preemptively caving to the right this often and visibly.

[-] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 weeks ago

Is there anywhere left on the internet that's uncensored? I miss the golden age.

[-] phlegmy@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 weeks ago

Yep, but most of them get filled with people who can't shut the fuck up about politics or conspiracy theories.

[-] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 weeks ago

here*

*may be up to your instance's admins

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[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Ugh. Can someone make another video game streaming service that doesn't allow influencers? I don't even care if it was popular. I just want twitch of old back.

Edit: Sorry guys. I'm looking for something that is impossible to have. There will never again be an emerging esports scene. Unless it completely dies, I guess.

[-] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

https://owncast.online

One lgbtq+ streamer I know dual streams to owncast

The directory is a list of live owncast streams.

Also, you should be able to chat on owncast streams with fediverse accounts, but the last time I tried, I wasn't able to log log in with my lemmy account.

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[-] dev_null@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago

What do you actually have in mind? Are you using the word "influencer" in some narrow way? Every streamer influences their viewers so my reading of your comment is that you are asking for a streaming service that doesn't allow streaming. Obviously you don't mean that, so I'm curious what do you mean.

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[-] bss03@infosec.pub 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Peertube is a federated option, and while it's primarily meant as a decentralized replacement for YouTube, many instances include the ability to stream live. https://video.infosec.exchange is the instance I use, but you might benefit from using a larger instance or one that shares an administrative staff with any other ActivityPub-connected things you use (e.g. lemmy.world).

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you're telling me the website currently going through antisemitism allegations is not a very good website?

What an odd thing to happen.

[-] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 57 points 3 weeks ago

TBF, that's not a very good litmus test since anyone protesting the Palestinian genocide has been accused of the same, which we all know is utter bullshit.

[-] InputZero@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Didn't you know, criticism of the Israeli government is tantamount to advocating for a genocide of Jewish people. It's binary, no way anyone can have an opinion that exists between a spectrum of the two. I mean someone criticizing a government and not it's people is just absurd.

(/S, incase anyone doubts my sarcasm)

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[-] Fleur_@lemm.ee 9 points 3 weeks ago

Hell yeah it's sensitive I start swooning and feel hot inside whenever I see cute boys. Thanks you twitch for helping me combat my femboy addiction.

[-] ganksy@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Can anyone verify that UserVoice is trustworthy?

[-] eth0slash0@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
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[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

While I disagree with the bullet point, this is meant for streams that are exclusively that content, the actual guideline is this:

[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago

Why is this the first I’m hearing of this?

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