I think this framing as "complicit in genocide" is harmful and unfortunately very successful. As I see it Israel is nothing but a proxy for American interests and activities in the surrounding region. It is almostly wholly subsidised, propped up and secured by American aid. If America were to divest itself from Israel, Israel would cease to exist the next day even if assistance from Euroghouls were to continue. America is one doing the genocide.
Indeed, it paints the relationship in misleading way.
good catch, theyre definitely guilty of genocide.
I think people tend to think of and speak of genocide withing its legal context and for that israel is its own sovereign nation. And I doubt the distinction makes any actual difference i dont think supplying the weapons, intelligence, money, and political support for genocide is any less of a wrong in most peoples minds than actually doing it.
Yes. It feels similar to what I've been learning about with the history of occupied Korea in that way. US props up government run by Syngman Rhee that is rabidly suppressive and violent. [Skipping ahead some] DPRK forces almost take over occupied Korea, with Syngman Rhee fleeing, but US along with UN forces (which are at this point in time basically beholden to the US from what I can gather about how Blowback was presenting it) intervenes, led by the rabidly violent MacArthur, without which Korea would prob just be Korea today and run by DPRK.
Of course, difference with Korea is Korea as a whole is a legitimately named region and israel is a made up colonizer state, but if we think of it as what gets called "South Korea" being like israel, both are basically states / territorial divisions made up by colonizer/occupier forces and are historically dependent on those forces because they are lone outposts of terror in a region that wants peace and self-determination.
It makes sense, in other words, that these sort of ghoulish outposts would be so dependent on support from imperialists/colonizers in other regions. They are an invader in the region they occupy and they terrorize, if not genocide, the locals. Which is going to make them violently unpopular to said locals and, thankfully in the case of israel, is at least starting to make them viscerally unpopular to the rest of the world too. Though it's little consolation with all the mass murdering they're getting away with so far.
Fwiw, mearshmeier thinks the US is controlled by jews 😅
Presumably that comes from this book:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Israel_Lobby_and_U.S._Foreign_Policy
Haven't read it myself, but from the summary it looks like he's talking about Israel, not Jewish people. We're all familiar with the difference.
It was an article not the book, ill reply when i find it.
Wait, seriously? I knew he's a ghoul, but I liked using him as an source for libs when talking about why Ukraine was the West's fault. I don't want to use him for anything anymore though if he legit thinks that?
Its the usual stuff with these "realist" geopolitics guys, really it should be called "culturalist" instead of "realist". They see the world firstmost as a clash of culture, and since some very powerful people in the world are jewish, their logical conclusion is that jews run the world but more eloquently.
I will hit you up with the article when i find it.
I found a YouTube link in your post. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
News from within the empire - From a leftist perspective