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not helping lemmy's extremist-leaning reputation guys

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[-] Jon_Servo@lemmy.world 113 points 4 days ago

"Doxxing Nazis is just as bad as the Nazis, you guys." 🤡

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 122 points 5 days ago

Actual fascists mirroring Hitler's rise to power prior to WW2, using the same rhetoric of violence toward out-groups, a tyrant failing to be prosecuted under the law even though he was convicted of 34 felonies, going through the entire system with nothing to show for it, and you dumb fucking "centrists" still feel like things can be fixed through the utterly broken fucking system we've created.

Get your heads out of your fucking asses.

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[-] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 80 points 4 days ago
[-] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago

Bold thing to say when your house is flammable.

A screenshot I saw somewhere.

[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 26 points 4 days ago

The screenshot I saw explained that the person that posted it said "Your house, my choice" and it just goes so fucking hard.

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[-] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 66 points 4 days ago

We're about to see a fascist america, and this is what you're worried about?

Do you also feel bad for the Nazis in pre-war germany who got harmed? Or even killed? Chances are you don't

Our world is about to become very different to what we're used to. Get ready for it. Playing nice won't win you the war

[-] 0xb@lemm.ee 59 points 4 days ago

It should be everywhere.

And don't come to me with the bullshit 'tolerance paradox'. Tolerance is not a human right. It's a clause of a societal contract and whoever start by breaking the contract is no longer covered by it.

Nazis get punched and nazis get doxxed.

[-] Aeri@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Wait am I just misunderstanding what the Tolerance Paradox is?

My read of the Tolerance Paradox is that it's Ok to punch Nazis because if you render yourself unwilling to participate in violence, there are others who will happily do it for (to) you.

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[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 45 points 4 days ago

There are two stages when doing with Nazis.

In the first stage: mock the ever loving shit out of Nazis. Nazi thrive on being making people afraid of them. Hard for people to he afraid of you when everyone is mocking you.

Glitter bomb, flaming bags of poop, toilet paper, egg the Fuentes house. Draw penises on the walls. The more juvenile the prank, the better. Hard to be afraid of someone when they have massive penis spray painted on the garage door.

Second stage kicks in when Nazis start getting violent. Kick those fuckers right in the crotch. Stop them from being able to breed.

[-] Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 4 days ago

There's a third.

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[-] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago

His house, the people's choice. The information being available just allows people to make an informed decision of whether or not to use it, and in what way.

[-] SquatDingloid@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago

Oh no a literal Russian asset might see some semblance of repercussions.

That's so horrible

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 25 points 4 days ago

Die mad about it 🤷‍♂️

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 31 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Damn right it is lmao

Seahorse runs that instance. The only thing that gets that post taken down is a court order

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[-] obscur_e@lemm.ee 20 points 4 days ago

I dont know what all of this about and im quite happy about it

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 4 days ago

I think admins should do whatever is necessary to comply with their local laws, and that's all I've got to say about that.

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago
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[-] GrymEdm@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

To people advocating violence in this thread - let's just ignore the immorality of convincing civilians to assault and kill other civilians. It's clear that premeditated murder is something these folks are unrepentant about if they're sure it's justified. So instead:

  • If people start dying Trump will have the outrage-inducing incidents he DREAMS of. If someone kills Fuentes/others the cops will seize and search all their electronic devices and social media accounts. They'll uncover all this violent vigilante rhetoric that radicalized the murderer and it will make the news. Trump will get all the proof he could want that "the enemy within" is a lethal threat, and he'll make national headlines out of these social media posts about "Trumpers are Nazis and Nazis aren't people and only deserve bullets in their heads". Fuentes and any others killed will be martyrs. Legal opposition that state governments, courts, civil liberty organizations, etc. are mustering will be swept away in the wake of radical left domestic terrorism and the fear it brings. Similar to how post-9/11 fear turned into 20 years of war.

  • Some people here are apparently living in a magical world where they punch millions and the Nazis fall to the ground wailing "Mein gott, I am undone! What a fool I've been. I'll be a better person!" and everyone around them cheers and promises to depose Trump and vote Democrat. Even worse are the ones who want to start shooting people, as if killing extremist, insane media figures like Fuentes will make their hateful audience concede and become good citizens. This morning I literally had someone reference Inglorious Basterds as proof the nation would rise up and support them. Life isn't a Tarantino film and you aren't Brad Pitt.

  • What is actually going to happen if you punch these people is they will pull guns on you in self-defence and kill you, then get acquitted in conservative courts because you assaulted them. Remember crybaby Kyle Rittenhouse? If you shoot them, they will start killing people back. The plan to beat up and shoot fascists en masse is a wet dream for domestic terror organizations/militias like the Proud Boys. Violence won't prevent purges, it will start them.

  • Basically all of these keyboard warriors aren't going to actually do any of the really illegal punching and killing they are so proud to demand. They're quick to say all Nazis must die right now to prevent "tens of millions of deaths", but THANKFULLY it doesn't seem like they're actually killing the Nazis near them (and they really, really shouldn't). So far it's all "I don't live near him" and "it sure would be a shame if someone else did it ". For essentially everyone posting this crap, again thankfully, it's just internet power fantasies and hoping someone impressionable commits the crime and takes the consequences.

I'm not defending fascist trash like Fuentes, but I am opposing these calls for angry internet "warriors" to start killing. Instead of telling everyone to murder their fellow citizens, how about protesting and visibly showing support for the women and minorities being targeted? How about making sure every American knows about measures like Gavin Newsom "Trump-proofing" California, or all the people and states already setting up legal challenges to things like mass deportations. What about making sure people know the Pentagon is furiously planning to resist and delay controversial orders? I assure you the Pentagon, state authorities and civil liberties organizations have far more effective and legal plans than angry Lemmy users convinced they're going to punch and kill their way to a safe nation.

[-] 5redie8@sh.itjust.works 22 points 4 days ago

Kinda cool to be in the front row seat tho ngl

[-] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 11 points 4 days ago

Wait, you're acting like it's a bad thing

[-] BreadOven@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago

Who? I'm not American if that helps.

[-] GrymEdm@lemmy.world 54 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

No worries, I'm Canadian and I had to look it up. Nick Fuentes is one of the online bastards preaching open hatred. "Nicholas Joseph Fuentes (born August 18, 1998) is an American far-right political pundit and live streamer who promotes white supremacist, misogynistic, and antisemitic views." Apparently he's so vile even other extremist Republicans are torn about associations with him - more in that article.

[-] electric@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

white supremacist named Nicholas Joseph Fuentes

There's just no way the right don't see the irony.

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[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

Is he the guy that came up with the phrase, “Your body, my choice”?

[-] GrymEdm@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago

I don't know if he coined the phrase, but he's one of the first. "Nick Fuentes, an influential white nationalist podcaster, appears to be one of the early instigators in promoting the phrase on November 5. His X post, “Your body, my choice. Forever.” has since received 35 million views."

[-] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

He's also the guy that said having sex with women is gay. Real charmer, that one

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[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 days ago

Yes, Every nonAmerican helps just a little. Thank you.

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[-] JIMMERZ@lemm.ee 11 points 4 days ago

Yeah fuck that guy. You make your bed you sleep in.

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[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

A literal neo-nazi. He was on Infowars with NazYe too.

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[-] can@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 days ago

That's up to each instance admin to decide.

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