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[-] 299792458ms@lemmy.zip 65 points 3 months ago

I guess they are premium ads?

[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 34 points 3 months ago

this but unironically

advertisers paid a premium

[-] lemmeBe@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Good one! 🤣

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Ad companies have the new subscription tier of Premium Buster, so now you have to upgrade to Premium Buster Buster

[-] Joelk111@lemmy.world 57 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If this goes live, I'm out. YT premium is my most expensive subscription, but I watch enough YouTube that I'm OK with it, especially considering that it supports creators more than ad viewers. If I still get ads? Nah dawg. I'll divy up that money amongst patreons or whatever, and install add blockers.

[-] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If your main reason for paying premium is for ad blocking, I’d suggest just cancelling it now and using ad blockers. If you want to support creators, I’d say that it’s better to cancel and subscribe to a few patreons - I’d pick some of the smaller creators you like, to spread some of that support around a bit.

If you use iOS devices for watching YouTube, look into side-loading uYou+, it’s basically an edited YouTube app that removes most of the ads. You can stream from your phone to the apple TV, too, also without ads.

Not sure what the android equivalent is, but someone else will know - hopefully they will share in the comments also.

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I use it because it came with Play Music, now YouTube Music. I'll just switch to Spotify if I see them.

[-] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 months ago

I stopped using streaming platforms personally and just went back to pirating music. Personally I don’t want to support Spotify because they continue to support far-right ideology with their podcasts, but that’s a completely personal decision.

[-] lychee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 3 months ago

whos gonna prosecute any of this shit now

[-] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 14 points 3 months ago

Oh they will prosecute! They will prosecute people with adblocks and alternative clients.

[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 months ago

This is why I stopped paying them. Fuck them, you're just an source of income to them.

[-] lychee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 months ago

Side loading works great for this and it's free

[-] filcuk@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 months ago

I mean, yeah, what kind of relationship did you expect?
They're not running youtube for the good of their heart

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Lol godamnit I just found out YouTube is a business, you're getting downvoted!

[-] YogurtDoes@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Yeah I stopped paying for premium once I’d figured out using Safari on my phone with an ad blocker works with YouTube still lol

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago

I use Firefox with ublock on my phone and I get no ads. Or I watch them in Newpipe.

[-] dizzy@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Which adblocker are you using on iOS?

[-] ComradeMiao@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago
[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 months ago

It is just YT testing new exciting features, nothing to worry about.

[-] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

u/Dangerous-Pizza7054 from the article,

Seems like the user tracking "special promotion" overrides the premium. They don't even say whether it's expected or not. But my take away is that paying for premium may or may not show you ads, but you are definitely tracked and harvested for data. (Maybe even more so, since, well, you are more valuable to them.)

[-] mlen@awful.systems 4 points 3 months ago

ublock is cheaper and actually works

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Well yes, you didn't get first ads. But what about second ads?

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

"With YouTube Premium, enjoy ad-free access, downloads, and background play on YouTube and YouTube Music."

In Australia, if they reneg on this headline promise, doesn't matter what's in the fine print, this would be refundable under Australian Consumer Law (not a lawyer).

What bullshit, and how silly on their part, since it's just so much more convenient to block ads instead of paying

[-] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

So premium users put their data on a pedestal for Google? That's fun

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

That's generally; if you have an account, you are easier to track for them.

[-] ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I got the same Sunday banner in the middle of the screen similar to where shorts show up. Never in my life have I watched or cared for American football. Clearly a waste of money for the advertising company since I just closed it by pressing the x same as shorts on desktop.

[-] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

That has been my specific issue with paying for any Google product always. I understand when I am using a product for free that I am not necessarily the customer and that money has to be made off of me or the users more generally somehow. That's "fine" (ish, not really, but that has more to do with issues of security than anything).

However when I pay for a product or service, I want to now be the customer and I want to be in control of my data and have the company cater to me. If, when paying for a Google service, there was some legally relevant things in place that insured I was no longer being tracked and used to generate revenue via third parties I would gladly pay. Probably more than they are charging now, but instead they want to have it both ways which is just not OK with me.

[-] datavoid@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

At least a subscription includes YouTube music? Isn't that interesting and relevant.

[-] alphabethunter@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

That part of the support email almost made me puke of how fucking awful it was. "Why complain about ads when you get YouTube Music for free by paying us money"

[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

This is normal, nothing to see here... except these wonderful ads!! - YouTube

[-] Drathro@dormi.zone 6 points 3 months ago

Grayjay on Android has been working damn near flawlessly for me. No clue if the parent company is to be trusted at this point or not- but I cannot argue with the results.

[-] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 2 points 3 months ago

I much prefer Newpipe, which has been amazing so far.

[-] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 months ago

I've been using thus too. Works great.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

A/b testing or code error?

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 months ago

With Alphabet, I treat anything related to delivering more ads as intentional.

[-] qualia@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Or sometimes it doesn't let me play YouTube in a minimized floating way. Seems to be if I've been going back and forth between horizontal and vertical vids. Both normally allow floating minimized play but something about how they interact often leads me to having to force close the app, which loses me the custom queue I've been constructing. If the official solution is buggy...

[-] darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

I just can't take an article complaining about ads seriously when it's that peppered with ads …

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

They are "complaining" (more like reporting) about ads for people who paid to not have any.

Do you have a subscription with this media company?

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

The second i see an ad in cancelling my subscription

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

I'd bet that channel "members" don't get ads for that channel regardless of premium status.

IMO, Google made premium, almost nobody bought it. So they went after adblockers, hoping that people would get premium to get rid of the ads. People most just Adblock harder.

While this is happening, one exec is peering over the fence at twitch. Where they only way to get away from ads without a pretty good Adblock, is to subscribe to the individual creator.

So they make "memberships" to channels a thing.

Almost nobody buys that either. So they go... What if, even if someone is premium, we give them ads, unless they're a channel member.

Genius.

Paying to block ads per creator/channel/whatever, is a special level of bullshit that twitch has always had.

The system is working as expected. The companies are trying to find the best way to extract the most value from you using their platform.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago

This is all conjecture right?

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Indeed. I have absolutely no way of knowing anything for certain.

I'm just screaming into the void from this hellscape we call Earth.

[-] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

One of my biggest issues with the ads is that they're mostly scams. I just get ads for shit I know isn't real

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago
[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

What ads? (User without premium, but proper browser and adblocker)

[-] misk@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This looks like either a bug in the platform or people with Premium Lite. The article made no attempt at investigating this because all they did was to reprint complaints from anonymous people on Reddit. Customer support offering boilerplate reply about why someone is seeing ads sounds like par for the course here because it’s all either LLM chatbots or people in third world countries who couldn’t care less.

[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 0 points 3 months ago

Suckers paying for it

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