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[-] MouthyHooker@hexbear.net 2 points 1 hour ago

I swear I become more China-pilled every day

[-] Des@hexbear.net 2 points 3 hours ago

just finished eating some peas, onions, carrots and bamboo in white sauce mmm

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 1 points 3 hours ago

China eating double the vegetables of Vietnam is a headscratcher unless they're counting tofu as a vegetable. Maybe they're counting the initial weight of the soybeans before it gets turned to tofu?

[-] crispy_lol@hexbear.net 18 points 10 hours ago

Chinese has the oldest cuisine and the best food culture and I worry about it bc the only export from the US that succeeded culturally and monetarily is the goddamn fried chicken and borger.

[-] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 8 hours ago

I remember being semi-forced to eat at Applebees in the US, and the food was alright, but there was an everpresent "But... why?" question in my mind

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 4 points 9 hours ago

I do admit borger with fries, and the fry chimken is yum tho

[-] Gorillatactics@hexbear.net 20 points 11 hours ago

Westerners have been pushing genetically modified rice on developing countries under the guise of fighting malnutrition. It sounds noble until you realize that changing the genetic structure of food is seen as preferable to distributing income so that people can buy some damn vegetables. The diet of the poor is always treated as a problem of inputs with no regard for culture or taste.

[-] Hexboare@hexbear.net 8 points 10 hours ago

I think I recall something on how at the least the first enhanced rices made no nutritional difference

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 42 points 13 hours ago

lol i always complain that chinese food restaurants are a scam because its mostly vegetables.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 42 points 13 hours ago

Gotta find the hidden Chinese food court in your area that takes a ten dollar bill and gives you a box of delicious food packed into a dense brick by the closing of the lid

[-] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 19 points 12 hours ago

thonk I always feel like Thai is a scam for its excessive rice and noodles (flavor and nutritional valueless). Refrying it with a bunch of vegetables is pretty awesome tho.

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 12 hours ago

its great flavor but come the price of the dishes is not remotely close to the price of its ingredients. their profit margins are absurd to the point its a scam

[-] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 8 points 12 hours ago

Fair enough

[-] uSSRI@hexbear.net 7 points 11 hours ago

My local good Thai restaurant is now $5-$10 more expensive than other restaurants of similar quality. Might be something to that

[-] Sickos@hexbear.net 40 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I can't find it now but there was an amerikkkan hit piece on China from early COVID lockdowns about their free food boxes not containing enough meat for a person to survive.

[-] dat_math@hexbear.net 49 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

not containing enough meat for a person to survive

That's weird. The amount of meat required for a person to survive is exactly 0 grams.

[-] buttwater@hexbear.net 3 points 2 hours ago

Nineteen years im-vegan can confirm

[-] Hexboare@hexbear.net 15 points 10 hours ago

on eating a vegetable the white US gut microbiome attempts to kill the host

[-] Lussy@hexbear.net 37 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Is there a source on this? There’s no way India eats that little amount of vegetables. The majority don’t even eat meat, so if this is accurate, their diet is literally just bread or they’re flat out not eating

[-] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 48 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I imagine this map isn't counting legumes/lentils as vegetables. The Indian diet, especially vegetarian, is heavily lentil based. Lots of paneer (basically a cheese that also functions as a tofu-like ingredient for many dishes) too, and of course breads and rice as you mentioned. Also potatoes. I imagine most of those aren't considered vegetables by whatever source this map is using.

EDIT: Also of course India isn't nearly as vegetarian as people imagine. The surveys are kind of variable, but we're reasonably only sure somewhere between 20-30% of Indians are vegetarians per:

[-] Chronicon@hexbear.net 10 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/vegetable-consumption-per-capita betting this is where they sourced it, FAO presents it at the supply level, the per capita figures are probably OWID's doing? Hilariously this probably also means the US figures are even lower due to home food waste not being accounted for

[-] ManFreakBeast@hexbear.net 13 points 13 hours ago

Idk I saw it on twitter

[-] Halloweenbean@hexbear.net 5 points 11 hours ago

Hindus eat pork

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 2 points 10 hours ago

Speaking from experience, the Indian diet is like 90-95% bread or rice and people eat something else (Veggies, Daal or meat) only for flavour. Too many carbs too little protein.

[-] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 26 points 12 hours ago

All the irrigation for their produce comes from American tears. liberty-weeping

[-] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 27 points 13 hours ago

a kilo of veg per day per person, damn

Death to America

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 23 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Is it even possible? Maybe it's some calculation error

[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 16 points 13 hours ago

I cant find those stats anywhere on the UN FAO website

[-] Chronicon@hexbear.net 10 points 12 hours ago

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/vegetable-consumption-per-capita betting this is where they sourced it, FAO presents it at the supply level, the per capita figures are OWID's doing

[-] Chronicon@hexbear.net 8 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

this sent me down a rabbithole and hot damn that website is rough to use

I found the first usable data digging into this one: https://www.fao.org/faostat/en/#data/FBS

with options looking like this (just hit select all to get all measures on that top right box):

seeing figures on the same order as whats listed in the OP:

except it's continued to increase lol

[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 7 points 11 hours ago

I was on the site trying to get those combinations to work. You did it

[-] chickentendrils@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 hours ago

I think it's accurate for China. There's lot of veggies in dishes in China everywhere I've been. This is pre-cooked weight certainly. I'm in the US and definitely more vegetarian than average but each week I go through a head of broccoli, 500g-1kg of bok choy or gailan, mandolin + pre-prep 6 large onions (>2.2kg) & 10-12 bell peppers (usually ~1.5kg), a couple 250-300g sweet potatoes, and 3-4x384g bags of frozen spinach.

[-] dat_math@hexbear.net 23 points 13 hours ago

Amerikkka clocking in at just over 126kg/capita

enjoy that constipation burgerbrains

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 21 points 12 hours ago

There's no way USians are getting half a kilogram of vegetables a day, that's way too high, this data set is sus.

[-] LocalMaxima@hexbear.net 15 points 12 hours ago

Corn syrup counts as a vegetable

[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 14 points 11 hours ago

Does the average Chinese really eat over a kilogram of vegetables each day though? Especially considering they also eat fair amounts of meat, noodles and ofc rice. Seems like a lot of food.

[-] BobDole@hexbear.net 5 points 10 hours ago
[-] Pili@hexbear.net 3 points 10 hours ago

Burger too!

[-] machiabelly@hexbear.net 6 points 11 hours ago

Potatoes count as a vegetable!

[-] Hexamerous@hexbear.net 13 points 12 hours ago

Sugar is a vegetable, right?

[-] sweet_pecan@hexbear.net 9 points 11 hours ago

i would have thought Vietnam was the highest!

[-] boiledfrog@hexbear.net 12 points 13 hours ago

Cool if true, but if I remember correctly they eat pretty big amounts of pig as well

[-] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 14 points 12 hours ago

China's meat consumption overall is around 60kg, putting it 56th in the world. If you don't count Hong Kong (which lol at being #1) the United States is #1 with over double, 124.11kg per person. The settler/rancher states of Australia, Argentina, New Zealand, Spain (obvi not a settler state but lots of ranching), and Israel round out the top 6 of meat consumption, all at around 100kg+.

Per here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_consumption

[-] boiledfrog@hexbear.net 4 points 8 hours ago

Maybe I should have stated that obviously, they hardly come close to western standards. (at least not yet, I gues it is likely growing in quantity)

[-] borschtisgarbo@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 12 hours ago

Pretty off topic, but does the reconquista count as settler colonialism?

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