Carnists are deeply unserious people (hexbear.net)

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I got in a discussion with one who said I shouldn't support PETA because they believe that all domesticated animals, including pets, should be released into the wild. When I asked where PETA had stated such a thing, he said "they never did, but people claiming to be acting on behalf of PETA have kidnapped and released pets." I asked him, given why this was illegal, 1) why those responsible would so readily rat out their organization, and 2) why PETA, which has many enemies among capital who would benefit greatly from crushing it, has never been hit with RICO charges over this.

His response? "Well, PETA's never denied it!"

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[-] roux@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

His response? "Well, PETA's never denied it!"

Well your friend is being dumb and arguing in bad faith. A quick web search will bring up their article about their stance on pet ownership. They encourage people who have the money, resources and time to care for pets to adopt and rescue pets.

Link: https://www.peta.org/about-peta/why-peta/pets/

and the very first sentence:

At PETA, we love and respect the animal companions who share our homes. Contrary to myth, PETA does not want to confiscate beloved, well-cared-for companions and “set them free.”

Anyone can say they are from some org or entity, but it doesn't make it true. Now if you will excuse me I am late for my space meeting at NASA today.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not once have I thought about PETA since becoming a communist.

I have said and believed slanderous things I am now regretting all at once. I am much too high for this

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 15 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

It's funny how much PETA lives rent free in every carnist's head, it's basically inversely proportional to how much you actually hear about them in real life.

[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 14 points 22 hours ago

Peta is a symbol of the unresolved contradiction between a carnist's self image as an ethical person and their knowledge of the horrors of industrial agribusiness. That contradiction is what haunts them to defensiveness

[-] MLRL_Commie@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

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[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 11 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR9BwiukoII

Also, like, what happens to the male chicks? Are they allowed to live to old age?

Edit: to answer your question, PETA is fine. They're an NGO. Ya, they don't threaten capitalism, but unlike nearly every NGO they don't work to strengthen it. I've done activism with them and they're VERY generous with offering help and funding, which isn't the case with other non-profits. They legitimately care about animals, less so their careers. A small percentage of their bagillion campaigns are considered cringy, but at least they do shit to make animal abusers feel uncomfortable.

Non vegans feel sad that they're being told to stop hurting sentient beings, so they repeat right-wing talking points.

[-] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 2 points 18 hours ago

Eats eggs

ban-hammer

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago

And your friend has never denied pissing in the kitchen sink so... y'know...

[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

Or having sexual relations with a vehicle. They’ve never denied it and if they deny it, there’s no evidence that shows they didn’t do it

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

PETA always is and does whatever is most convenient for a carnist's argument.

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