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[-] GeorgeZBush@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago

Actual deep state military coup when?

[-] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

Why are we cheering? Is this not a pretense for a military purge of non-Trump-loyalists? Like a fascist purge?

[-] finderscult@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 week ago

A) anything that weakens the US and US military is objectively good for humanity.

B) maybe some will be disillusioned enough after the purge to create distractionary forces the government can further weaken itself on by suppressing them

C) it's really funny the idea of some asshole that spent his entire adult life killing kids for money getting purged because he didn't want to do the bare minimum ass kissing required to kill more kids for money, like they have morals, standards, or some idea of dignity.

[-] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

Maybe I just don’t understand why this would weaken the military. It doesn’t seem like it would be that disruptive to them in the grand scheme of things.

[-] finderscult@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 week ago

Anyone competent is loyal to the constitution, not any one president or government. To get to be a general you're going to be in the military though at least four admins, so loyalty to even a single party is stupid. So if these trials are followed through with, everyone competent will be out.

Additionally this jumpstarts the yesman downward spiral of competency; if you bring bad news contrary to what the fascist leadership want to hear, you're eliminated, leaving people that will only lie to the admin, leading to the admin to have false information, leading to bad orders, leading to people having to lie about the failure of those orders, and so on. Usually this can take a decade or more to cause a failure, but if you start the cycle with a highly visible purge, even if you don't kill those purged, that cycle starts near the end of the cycle.

Tldr creating loyalists that have to bend reality to stay employed will lead to a spiraling effect of decisions and failures based on nonreality that will eliminate those creating loyalists.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

That was a great summary of the effect this could have.

trump-anguish Hitler's generals speedrun challenge

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

TBH, a lot of supposed Hitler incompetency was his generals blaming their own fuckups on him.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 6 points 6 days ago

That happened during the Trump admin too lol

[-] Sulvor@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

Real. The withdrawal from Afghanistan was a shit show and getting rid of the people who orchestrated it does not necessarily weaken the military.

[-] TrimmedDubya@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago
[-] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago
[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

former US military officers

courts-martial

brow

[-] Sulvor@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

It would strip them of benefits and pension im pretty sure

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

it's very narrow i guess, people who are retired and completed the 20 years for a pension before 60? some clause lets the military call those people back to active duty or something. but you go down the joint chiefs of staff they're almost all 60+ and the retired ones are definitely older so whats the point?

they could change the rules ig but the chilling effect of something like that would be insane, the entire military hierarchy will be terrified to do anything for fear of getting fucked 20 years later for it lmao

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago
[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

maybe in the short term, but the run on effect of this politicization will be the military interfering with civilian government out of self interest.

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

It will make American government less stable and efficient, so good, I guess.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 4 points 6 days ago

a military dictatorship would be something that could run the US military better (basically nothing else though) which is not good for the third world.

financialized destruction of US fighting power is a positive; that going so far as to provoke a reaction that could fix it to some extent is not so good.

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 3 points 6 days ago

It will also fuck economic and ideological levers of control, and that will give communists more advantages than improving American military will harm us.

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