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Jeremy failson more like. Dickhead buys a farm to dodge taxes, then gets pissy when the tax dode loophole gets a teeny tiny bit more ~~fiddlycult~~ ~~difficult~~ fiddlycult to loo.
Jere not my son more like. jemorony clackson more like

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[-] CarsAndComrades@hexbear.net 2 points 1 hour ago
[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 40 points 15 hours ago

The Clarkson's Farm and former Top Gear presenter will join the protesting farmers - against his doctors' orders after recent heart surgery.

"I will be there, despite having letters from doctors telling me not to go on the march and saying I must avoid stress,” he told the Sun.

There's an opportunity for something funny to happen

[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 11 points 11 hours ago

This man is not a farmer. He has said in interviews that he only bought a farm so that he wouldn't have to pay tax when shooting.

[-] Josephine_Spiro@hexbear.net 9 points 11 hours ago

Hey don't say that, he also got to make a TV show about acting like being a farmer

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 8 points 11 hours ago

I'm guessing it was Clarkson doing an extended take of the "I'm a farmer, daddy!" scene from Freddy Got Fingered

[-] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 22 points 15 hours ago

He's gonna fake a heart attack, slip on a banana peel and then land under a falling piano?

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 74 points 17 hours ago

Clarkson is like someone genetically engineered a man to have all the worst British traits possible

[-] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 59 points 16 hours ago

Typical Celto-Germanic

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 49 points 16 hours ago
[-] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 18 points 12 hours ago

everything in the english-speaking world is vibes based, so being associated with a farm makes you a farmer

[-] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 8 points 12 hours ago

does anyone know the marxist class analysis of tenant farmers in the modern day? Are they peasants? Are they proles? Are they some sort of petit bourg chimera?

[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

The tax is an inheritance tax for any farmer with net assets over £1m. This might sound like a lot to you and me, but the value comes from mostly inflated land values, and doesn't take into account farmer income which is typically not amazing.

So a lot of farmers who are doing even moderately okay will essentially not be able to pass their land on to their children without their kids forking out near £60k

The government thinks it will affect only 500 farms, so I interpret this that it was meant to be a tax on the hyper wealthy farmers, but it seems completely out of whack with the number of middle-class to working-class farmers it will actually affect.

TLDR: Farmers are spectrum of classes, but even the poorest hold assets with measurable value.

[-] Halloweenbean@hexbear.net 5 points 10 hours ago

What tenant farmers? Most are migrants or kulaks.

[-] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 41 points 17 hours ago

Top Gear used to be my favorite show but I can’t even watch their old episodes anymore because Clarkson has become such an insufferable bell end.

[-] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 16 hours ago

I am not sure what you mean became, he always was one, I cannot find an episode where he was not an insufferable bellend

[-] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 25 points 15 hours ago

It just used to be that people thought he was doing a bit

[-] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 25 points 15 hours ago

Maybe it’s just a matter of degrees. In the past, before the end of Top Gear and when they moved on to Amazon, I feel there was a certain unseriousness to his buffoonery. It was a role he played up, but more or less silly.

In recent years it feels like he’s taken the “character” of Clarkson and absorbed him fully and made this character into a much worse version.

(And to be clear, I’m only talking about Clarkson the performer, he definitely was always a huge asshole irl)

[-] sourquincelog@hexbear.net 8 points 12 hours ago

Agreed. He played the heel and did it well. At some point he lost the plot

[-] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

worked himself into a shoot brother
- hh

[-] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 14 points 17 hours ago
[-] Huldra@hexbear.net 37 points 17 hours ago

The answer is obvious but I still have to ask if the farmers have no real shame in their body?

Who would want to be represented by a television dickhead who bought a farm and then when the contracted local retired, decided that he would do it himself as reality tv and promptly renamed the farm to "diddly squat".

Like you wouldnt be offended if you werent a farmer, but if you can imagine being one then wouldn't you find it a little distasteful for some dickhead with money to roll in and make a big joke out of it?

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 34 points 15 hours ago

Most farmers (who aren't farm hands/workers) in the imperial core are essentially petty bourgeoisie. They have the same class interests as the ruling class.

[-] urmums401k@hexbear.net 16 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

So, in the UK they have special ancestral bullshit about land ownership, and agricultural land is extra special and has all sorts of tax and inheritance gimmees that the oligarchs use to do oligarch things.

They dont 'have the same interests'; its literally the same people.

The same way american farmers are, by area, mostly corporations, but scammier

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 27 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

100% of the farmers in this protest are petty-bourgeoisie. They are protesting because the changes are likely going to force them to sell their farms, these sales will go to much bigger farms.

What's happening is essentially the petty-bourgeoisie being squeezed by the bourgeoisie.

[-] Huldra@hexbear.net 11 points 15 hours ago

Oh yes definitely, but don't they have some invented mythology and folksy pride to them?

Have they all just beocome indistinguishable from finance worms and the other standard ghouls?

[-] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 11 points 15 hours ago

Well you see they get a lot of money from the government and they're all massively in debt as long as they don't sell their land, but if they do they're millionaires, but they don't, so that means they're working class

[-] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 23 points 17 hours ago

They think Jezza is cool and the man. My brain melted when I saw he had a an article published in a newspaper in Britain, and it started pouring out of my ears when I realised he was a regular columnist. He had an actual column in an actual newspaper and it wasn't about cars and farts, but politics.

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 29 points 15 hours ago

Top Gear becomes less fun when you realize Clarkson means what he says - the ignorant caricature of a right winger that he plays is not too dissimilar from his actual views.

[-] monobot@lemmy.ml 7 points 14 hours ago

I thought the same at the beginning, but after working for few years in agriculture, he is actually presenting real problems every farmer has, not only British bourgeoisie.

He put more spotlight on farming issues than all non profit organisations together.

Of course they support him. Yeah he is a bit crazy and looks disrespectful on the first look, but give it a chance he is actually highlighting even ecological issues around farming.

[-] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 15 points 17 hours ago

but he was on TV! Could there be anything more important? trump-enlightened

[-] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 35 points 18 hours ago

Is there any (western) country where farmers don't suck?

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 27 points 17 hours ago

I don't think so. I gather there are three kinds of farmers in the us

  • massive aggrobusinesses

  • petit boug who own enough land to turn a profit and have enough revenue to hire significant amounts of labor.

  • poor farmers who have capital but are at best servicing their debts and cannot afford to either improve their profitabilty or sell their effectively worthless capital and get out.

I think that pattern holds in much of the west and probably outside the west, with the poor farmers constantly getting fucked by the machinations of empire while the agribusinesses reap most of the benefits and the petit boug landholders cost by on a combination of profits and subsidies.

[-] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 19 points 17 hours ago

I don't know if the "poor farmer" really exists on anything beyond an anecdotal level. Most often they can break even if they sell their land and machines, at least as far as I've been able to find. Not saying there are NO situations where that isn't the case, but that those situations are like the "my uncle smoked cigars his whole life and never got sick" amount of times it's actually the case. In large parts of the west you can even draw direct lineage back to old nobility for almost all farmers (who aren't just a big corporation)

[-] Parzivus@hexbear.net 4 points 11 hours ago

They definitely exist. Used to do water sampling in Arkansas, they are entirely reliant on various government subsidies and tax exemptions. I never felt particularly bad for them given their almost total disregard for the environment, but they weren't usually exploiting people outside their own families.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 18 points 16 hours ago

I know a small number of people who are small scale farmers caught in debt traps. Met most of them at work, as they had to hold regular jobs to stay remotely solvent. But, you're right, it's a small number of people.

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[-] Tommasi@hexbear.net 32 points 17 hours ago

Every few years, western farmers gather in a lab somewhere to attempt to create the most cringe protest scientifically possible.

[-] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 26 points 17 hours ago

Somehow the cops never kill them

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 24 points 17 hours ago

Farm(own)ers and farm workers are two different positions. The former will always suck

[-] Bobson_Dugnutt@hexbear.net 15 points 16 hours ago

Kulaks and landless peasants

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[-] camaron30@hexbear.net 22 points 16 hours ago

Some of these farmers protests are legit, but others are rich landowners complaining that they have to pay 1% more taxes or do more bureaucracy. I'm spanish, "the farmers" also got pissy when the milquetoast socdem government said that there would be slighly more labour inspections. God forbids someone asks them why there are so many undocumented migrants working like slaves.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 18 points 15 hours ago

This protest is petty-bourgeoise farmers being squeezed by the bourgeoisie via inheritance tax. The tax is likely to cause many of them to sell their farms, which will be bought by much bigger farming corporations.

[-] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 10 points 15 hours ago

Some of these farmers protests are legit

I've never seen one of these farmers protests for any legit reasons, can you give me an example of one?

[-] cerealkiller@hexbear.net 22 points 17 hours ago

And I thought James May breaking Stalin's house was bad.

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[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 16 points 17 hours ago

"Today in Top Gear, i'll be leading 20,000 farmers on Westminister to protest and be cringe"

[-] cerealkiller@hexbear.net 13 points 16 hours ago

"Today on Medium Gear, we will try exhaust fume"

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