207
Brief history of the world since the end of WW2 (lemmy.ml)
submitted 4 days ago by yogthos@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml
18 comments fedilink hide all child comments
top 18 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 21 points 4 days ago

Yup. All of post-Foucauldian academia is literally downstream of a CIA op to suppress Marx and Mao in academia even. Phenomenology, hermeneutics, basically all the post-Habermas anything intersubjectve or similar. There are declassified documents at this point. I saw something published by a lefty substacker or similar recently about it, but In blanking on who it was... maybe Chris Hedges? The Hillary 2016 woke strategy to call Bernie and his followers racist/sexist/etcist is just the latest iteration and I LOVE how the neolibs are now trying to lay the "post your pronouns, toxic male!" shit at the feet of the left they summoned it to discredit.

[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

There's a similar story of the sorts with "libertarian" ideology (a word stolen from French Anarchists - who were without a doubt leftists). Milton Friedman was paid by the oil industry to come up with it, and they peddled it through the Real Estate Association of America.

https://www.alternet.org/2013/09/true-history-libertarianism-america-phony-ideology-promote-corporate-agenda/

[-] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 8 points 4 days ago

The worst thing that ever happened to America was that Perot's third party shit became libertarian shit. If Nader and Perot as very smart men in 1980-something knowing what we'd be by now worked out a REAL plan for '92...

[-] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

If you dont know him yet, i suggest you get familiar with Gabriel rockhill, youre probably gonna like

[-] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 1 points 4 days ago

I do not but I will non-Google look into them

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

The Hillary 2016 woke strategy to call Bernie and his followers racist/sexist/etcist

when did this happen?

[-] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 4 points 4 days ago

2016...

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

I walked into that. Lol

I meant to ask for a incident in which bernie followers being racist or sexist.

[-] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 5 points 3 days ago

Well, there were a LOT of accusations. As this Vox piece from the time points out, they actually started the "Bernie Bro" attack line in 2015 https://www.vox.com/2016/2/5/10919754/bernie-bro-sexism. February, Bill Clinton said we were all sexist https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bill-clinton-accuses-bernie-sanders-supporters-berniebros-of-sexism/ and Salon did a hit piece https://slate.com/technology/2016/02/bernie-bros-are-bad-the-conversation-around-them-is-worse.html.

Her general line was that we shouldn't try to do left wing things because they won't magically solve sexism AND racism AND homophobia https://www.vox.com/2016/2/11/10976502/democratic-debate-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders which I feel like is the TRUE heart of the "BUT YOU DIDN'T POST YOUR PRONOUNS 😭" era of neoliberal woke politics, which the neolibs are conveniently now disowning "It was all you Bernie Bros who were the social justice warriors, I have no idea what you're talking about" while Tom Suozzi curb stomps a trans 14yo child while screaming "You damnable socialists are MAKING me do this!"

Ironically even Salon at the time, noted that Hillary wasn't going to be able to win a general election accusing everyone in the DNC to the left of Dick Cheney of sexism https://www.salon.com/2016/03/25/hillary_clintons_dirty_politics_bernie_sanders_is_experiencing_the_same_nasty_tricks_that_clintons_campaign_dealt_obama_in_2008/. But true DNC water carriers like Mediaite were pushing the line still in September https://www.mediaite.com/online/why-hillary-clinton-is-right-about-bernie-supporters-and-sexism/ and the NYT was still using the line in 2019 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/02/us/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-sexism.html.

Hillary was even still being a bitch about it in 2020 https://reason.com/2020/01/21/still-seething-over-2016-hillary-clinton-slams-sanders-for-sexism-sans-substance/.

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

The strategy was to wield identity politics as a weapon by making these false claims, eg, “It’s her turn”

[-] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

They tried it again too, with their "America just wasn't ready for a black woman president, we all deserve the worst coming to us now" utter liberal bullshit

[-] Tja@programming.dev -2 points 4 days ago

KGB tried the same, but they lost.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago

Last I checked living conditions actually improved in socialist states that USSR supported, while it was the US that ran around overthrowing democratic governments and creating mass poverty. Should learn some history.

[-] Tja@programming.dev -2 points 4 days ago

Not only irrelevant, but also false.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago

Both relevant and true, but I'm not expecting to convince you of anything.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago

Living standards have nothing to do with KGB overthrowing democratic governments.

And I lived in a Soviet-overthrown country, as did my parents and grandparents... you don't need to convince me of anything.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 4 days ago

go home fash

[-] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 4 days ago

I'm already home, in a functioning democracy with freedom and social welfare. What's a fash?

this post was submitted on 22 Nov 2024
207 points (94.8% liked)

Memes

45746 readers
1505 users here now

Rules:

  1. Be civil and nice.
  2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml
sexy_peach@feddit.de
cyclohexane@lemmy.ml
cypherpunks@lemmy.ml