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I hate big tech controlling social media. I desperately want social media to be federated.

I really love community-driven social media like Reddit. Lemmy feels… too small. I really loved that Reddit let me jump into any niche hobby, and instantly I had a community. Lemmy, you’ll be lucky if that community even exists, and if it does, chances are nobody has posted in ages.

On the other hand, Lemmy is full of political content lately. I’ve basically been doom scrolling everything US election-related, and it’s really starting to take a toll on my mental health.

I know I can filter content. I know I can post and be the change I seek. Yet, it feels like an uphill battle.

Not sure what the point of this is, or if it’s even the right community to vent about this. I just really want to replace Reddit, but I find myself going back more and more (e.g. r/homekit is very active compared to Lemmy version).

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[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yes Lemmy is smaller and doesn't have instantly fully formed communities. Reddit has been around for almost 2 decades. Lemmy is newer, smaller, and actively fights the sorts of shenanigans that Reddit initially used to get big.

If you want more niche activity, make posts and interact with posts. Lemmy is user driven- that means you. It isn't a giant megasite where you can just expect to be a passive receiver of endless content.

[-] riquisimo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

On Lemmy you feel like your voice is heard more because it's smaller, IMO.

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago

I hear you dude! 😜

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago

I was their in reddit beginning. There were no initial shenanigans. It was a good place and existed at just the right time, when people wanted to leave Digg because it was turning into a dumpster fire, similar to what reddit has done.

When reddit started turning to shit there just wasn't anything for the masses to migrate to that was available other than here. Problem is that here isn't as simple to get into. In lemmy, the learning curve is slightly higher than "bare minimum".

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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

you gotta realize reddit didn't just "appear" one day with those obscure niche topics built out. There is a network effect large communities have. We need hundreds of thousands more members before that is possible.

I think you probably weren't there for early reddit, but most of the active posters here on Lemmy were. It was tiny. Like Lemmy.

You can't force those niche communities to exist here. It doesn't work. But what you can do is post and create valuable content. and eventually we may get there.

[-] flicker@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's so weird to me that people are so spoiled today that they feel inconvenienced when there isn't limitless content in their niche fields of interest being served to them on a platter every single day.

Those of us who remember the before times can tell you that the absolute best of a platform comes before that point. I'm sure it's lovely getting your full every single second, but the best conversation, the best education, the best introspection comes when you're allowed a few minutes between stimuli to think.

I feel like "Old woman yells at cloud" but I really feel like our younger folks who crave endless, mindless interaction, don't know what they miss out on.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I can't blame them, because they've been conditioned to be consumers of content. While they idealize creators, they also put up barriers in their minds as the the level of quality a given comment, piece of content, whatever, needs to achieve before getting involved.

I try and think of Lemmy as the equivalent of the Linux. We're just going to have lower adoption because there isn't a corporate juggernaut behind us promoting this thing.

But if people really want to know why reddit was able to become reddit, it happened here yesterday with cats. It's bean memes. Its Stör. Its us developing culture of our own as a community.

So its fine. I'm not too worried. We're doing great.

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[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

Here's something I learned, don't be afraid to block. Political sub you don't want? blocked. Person shouting about China in a cat sub? blocked.

Also add blacklisted keywords, it cuts down on politics a ton

[-] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

We have to be the thing we want to see out in the world. If we want open source communities and an internet free of corporate influence then we have to do the work required to build them. It's not going to happen by magic.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago

Feel free to block communities with political content.

You can also use an app or alternative frontend to filter keywords. !newtolemmy@lemmy.ca has a post about that.

For communities, !newcommunities@lemmy.world can help

For home kit, the Apple communities are probably more active, and you should be able to post about it there too

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

The Fediverse is virgin territory. The trails aren't blazed for you here; it's your job as an early adopter to make it the way you want it to be. You want a community? Start it and participate in it.

[-] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Enjoy being the only one posting.

Mass adoption is fundamental to make any social media viable; the fewer users it has, the less useful it is. Reddit has more users than Lemmy. It's that simple. People won't start switching until everybody else switches.

Bluesky is only barely starting to compete with Twitter, and that's after Twitter drastically worsened. Lemmy is a long, long way from competing with Reddit.

To me, it's a matter of time. The structural advantages of the fediverse mean that it's more stable on the long run; what i mean by that is, for-profit Reddit will get worse while Lemmy remains good, leading users to migrate here, so Lemmy will eventually outlive Reddit. And then along the way there will be a few big moments where Reddit really fucks up and a wave of people washes up on Lemmy. This is already happening, i'm pretty sure all of us here made our accounts after the Reddit API changes.

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[-] realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 3 points 2 months ago

On the other hand, Lemmy is full of political content lately.

Unfollow communities with political content, and all that goes away.

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

I think a surprising number of people use the 'All' feed, both here, and on Reddit.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

All feed rocks, but people should still block the stuff they dont want to see so their feed stays how they want.

People are worried about the lack of content on lemmy, but you just have to accept lemmy doesn't move as fast as reddit.

Don't check it a couple times a day, check it a couple times a week. I am on most days because I find something elsewhere and want to share it here. I don't make 90% of what I share. Our memes comrades.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

i think that your experience is the most common experience that moonlighting & ex-redditors have with lemmy and is the biggest "sore spot" that most lemmings have.

like you, i hate how big tech enshitifies social media and that's been making me move from one social media platform to the next since the 1990's (since before it was called social media). i'm convinced that the enshitification is pushed by big tech's investors in an effort to squeeze out as much profits from the platform as possible; resulting in the types of enshitification that you see on reddit, or facebook, or bluesky or etc. i think that this fact gives lemmy the best chance out of NOT enshitifying, or at least not as fast as reddit or bluesky did.

i used to be on reddit too, but lemmy works better for me and i think it's because of what it was designed to do; it's as if all the left leaning political subreddits (eg r/communism, r/socialism, r/anarchy, r/politics, etc.) got together to create their own social media safe space on the fediverse away from reddit's toxicity. so they did in lemmy and; when the investors pushed u/spez to enshitify reddit; a whole bunch of people left reddit and filled the ranks of lemmy.

when that happened this tankie safe space did the same thing that its real-world counterpart safe-spaces-for-the-ostracized spaces do. like gay neighborhoods, they got gentrified by a MUCH LARGER group of people with better finances and social connections and, during the transition, there's lots of things that the gentrifiers don't like, like late night loud music; or lack of schools; or the "politics" (in this specific situation).

the gentrifiers usually succeed eventually and those pesky life-altering politics will be pushed aside like the high rents & $10 coffee shops push away the artists and agitators that originally made the neighborhood an attractive place to inhabit and they'll go do it all over again in some other neighborhood somewhere else once they're successfully pushed out where the cycle of humanity repeats itself all over again.

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

I like to cook vegan food and post about it 😊

[-] anon6789@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

A lot of focus is put onto posting, but I like to encourage commenters. I'll post and respond all day, but if nobody is interacting, it's going to stay quiet. Put the quiet to your advantage by doing things like:

If you like an image, say what you like about it. Lately, I've been having people talk about how they really have been enjoying dawn/dusk pictures, so I've been collecting more of that so I can post what people are in the mood for. It gives me good feedback, it gives people a chance to agree or disagree with you, and you got to participate.

Do you ask anyone any question? Take advantage of the relative quiet. With not having a million comments on every post, I have plenty of time to give you really detailed answers. I got asked how to differentiate between 2 animals yesterday, and I had time to make a nice visual guide, highlighting key differences and giving multiple visual examples of potential variations while still simplifying the process of identification. If there's a million people talking like on Reddit, it's hard to give people that much attention, but here it's easy. I pretty much take time to respond to every comment.

Don't be afraid to go off topic. Rules seem to be looser in many communities because of the low post count. This week, I posted something from a country with a different language, and I ended up having 3 days of conversation with a native speaker who filled me in on tons of subtleties of the language pertaining to our niche topic. I got to learn so much, and they got to learn a few things about English.

I feel you have to do something to have a good time here, but it needn't be to post multiple things every day, but it's more than just up or downvoting something like you can get away with on Reddit. We're too small for you to have a free ride. But make someone laugh. Let them know that you liked their post with a short comment. If you don't like it, say hey, do you have any content on such and such instead. Make a post saying, hey, what's your thoughts on this? It doesn't need to be something groundbreaking or insightful, you just need to give a sign of life so we know you're here, and one of us will probably talk back to you.

Interact enough like that, and you may find what you enjoy doing, if that turns out to be posting, or you become the resident expert on a topic even if you're not an expert, being a serial commenter, or whatever it may be. It's a great opportunity if you make it one because it is so easy to get attention here if you try.

I'm not typically a social person, but being here has let me talk about what I want, when I want, and somebody will listen to it, and I can ask about things I want to know and get answers. There's much less shouting into the void like at Reddit. Play Lemmy to its strengths and you will find enjoyment. And if you don't like it, go to where you're happy. Nobody's going to hate you if you split time between here and Reddit.

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 1 points 2 months ago

I'll post and respond all day, but if nobody is interacting, it's going to stay quiet.

Well I just wanted to respond because I'm also trying to comment as much as I can and even post every now and again. But the issue I've seen is Lemmy draws a certain kind of person, which means a lot of like minded people in the comments. I see your response here, read it, like it and then think: "Yes I agree, nothing to add". So I don't respond, which makes it feel pretty quiet.

Another thing I've seen is not a lot of people even bother opening posts, they just scroll through the feed, get their dopamine and that's it.

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[-] robocall@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Lurk on Reddit. Post on Lemmy.

[-] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I like it as a platform but the userbase just isn't there.

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[-] Gointhefridge@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Seeing all the cats made me realize that we need to all participate to make the community what we want it to be. It’s clear to me there are a lot of lurkers based on the influx of cat pictures. The more we start posting in ANY instance the more visibility there will be for active users.

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[-] lorty@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Niches really need a way to advertise themselves and then congregate in one place. It's a bit sad to see two communities for the same thing in different instances and neither get the critical mass of posters needed to survive.

[-] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 months ago

I hate reddit as a platform but I still have to use it every once in a while because people won't move to Lemmy/mbin/piefed.

I honestly don't understand it. People complain that they don't use the fediverse because it's small but somehow they don't realize if they just migrate over then it won't be.

It's aggravating how dumb people can be but hey, that's the world we're living in. I'll continue to use Lemmy and visit reddit if I have to.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago

I honestly don’t understand it. People complain that they don’t use the fediverse because it’s small but somehow they don’t realize if they just migrate over then it won’t be.

Network effect in full blast

[-] pseudo@jlai.lu 2 points 2 months ago

Well Lemmy is a possible replacement for Reddit but, putting aside my strong biais for Lemmy, it doesn't have to be a Reddit replacement for everyone and it is still building itself up. Here is a few tips to improve your time in hope you'll find on the fediverse the space you look for :

  • Try write post on dead looking community. Follower counts have a hard time synchronizing btw instances. A lot of people may be waiting for some activity to happened.
  • Try opening niche community in their original instance. The posts wrote on a distance community before the first lemming of your instance opens it are invisible and must be added one by one (by entering it URL in your instance search function). You might found interesting content you missed.
  • Try reposting content you see on Reddit on Lemmy. Copy-Paste it and add something like "R*eddit content - OP : @XXX@reddit.com" somewhere in the post. You might not have as much response as OP but it can stir up interesting conversation.
  • Try to make an account on the twittoverse (Mastodon, *key...). The community on the microblogging side of the fediverse is much bigger and diverse. You will be able to boost your lemmy content and link it to hashtag so more people may see it. Answer to the original post will even show up on Lemmy. But second level comments will not fediverse well.
  • Try to post articles, general question or to do anything to bring some animation to your niche community. Regularity in low engagement content will still bring people that will sooner or later start to engage.
  • Don't hesitate to crosspost any related post to your favorite community. Community are silos, instances are silos and the lemming populating is very fragmented. By linking communities together, you'll bring people with the same hobbies than you to the community they did not find out yet. -Don't hesitate to answer at old post. Us lemmings don't have enough activity to complain about people writing back months later, especially in niche community.

Cheers!

[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

If the BlueSky migration keeps up the pace, I think it will be a good bet that Reddit to Lemmy will be the next big user migration. There's signs it's already started, within the last year I've been here I've seen the community and sub-communities grow significantly and there's been an increase of self-proclaimed converts over the last several months.

[-] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I don't see the connection between Lemmy and Bluesky/reasoning, can you elaborate?

[-] niktemadur@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Probably the hope, not completely unfounded, that the migration from one "legacy" (from the 00s) platform to a more recent alternative service - twitter to Bluesky - will help inspire people in other legacy platforms to also realize that alternatives do exist now, they are part of a broader conversation that they weren't a part of even two years ago.

Even a year and a half ago, this place felt like it hadn't yet installed the drywall, the wiring and tubing was incomplete. Now it feels more seamless, ready for a spurt of growth.

"Hey... Bluesky isn't all that bad, I'm glad to be out of the clutches of a billionaire asshole, and not feel utterly lost here", now cue what OP believes a number of people will also think: "Hmm... maybe I'll check out Lemmy, too. See what the alternative to reddit is like."

Some of them could have tried it, didn't like it, might come back and be like: "Hey, Lemmy's not too bad since last I last looked a year ago", and here's a clincher that definitely wasn't here a year and a half ago: "The app works pretty good", and there are a lot of new apps, having a choice gives a sense and weight of legitimacy.

[-] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I still remember the DDoS attacks

[-] padge@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I get it. I basically have to browse on the everything tab to get enough content, and just block the politics communities because I get enough of that from everywhere else in life. I've been using the lack of content to just ween myself off social media though, rather than go back to Reddit. This is the only "social media app" I have installed on my phone unless you count Discord and YouTube

[-] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago

I really love community-driven social media like Reddit. Lemmy feels… too small. I really loved that Reddit let me jump into any niche hobby, and instantly I had a community.

Please note: you only ever had something like that with Reddit when it had already several years of operation. Even today, you can't jump instantly and find there a community for any niche hobby.

As with all these things: be the change you want to see. Add content, or else it won't be there when you or someone else comes in.

(There's also a feel that Lemmy is "small" becaue it's not only one place and all that)

[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

All I’m getting lately in my feed are cats!

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Honestly, that was what early reddit was like too. Lots and lots of cat pics.

[-] Albbi@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

Would you rather have cats or beans?

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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Here is a list of keywords that I filter out. I also block all political content communities.

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