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Why Simon Pegg thinks Star Trek is forever tainted (www.slashfilm.com)
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The last "Star Trek" feature film released in theaters was "Star Trek Beyond" back in 2016. The movie was directed by Justin Lin, the filmmaker behind "Better Luck Tomorrow" and several of the "Fast and Furious" movies, and it was co-written by Simon Pegg, who also played Scotty in the film. "Beyond," the third film in the Kelvin timeline, was ... pretty good. The action was clear and the character work was solid — the entire cast brought their A-games — but the film overall was generic action nonsense; it was the fourth "Star Trek" film in a row about a twisted villain on a mission of revenge. Sadly, "Beyond" wasn't as big a hit as Paramount wanted, and it seemed to be the end of the road for "Star Trek" in theaters.

Ever since, though, Paramount has been persistently struggling to make a fourth "Star Trek" movie set in the Kelvin timeline. As of this writing, some new plans are afoot to finally make said film along with a prequel movie set at an earlier point in the "Star Trek" timeline. Given how many false starts there have been on "Star Trek 4," however, one will simply have to bide their time to see if anything comes to fruition

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In an interview with Katee Sackhoff on "The Sackhoff Show," Pegg talked a little bit about his "Star Trek" experiences. In doing so, he admitted he has a hard time imagining "Star Trek 4" ever getting made, seeing as it would be "tainted" by Yelchin's absence.

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"I'd love to do more. Obviously, it's been forever tainted because we lost Anton, and that was a really hard thing for everyone involved, and for the real world, let alone anything else. If we do come back, if there is another opportunity to come back, I'd love to. Because as we were saying earlier on, it's a group of guys that I dearly, dearly love and don't get to see very often [...] It would be good to get back together with them."

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[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

Beyond was... Not good. I liked the others though.

[-] can_you_change_your_username@fedia.io 54 points 1 day ago

It's time to move on from TNG and TOS. We need a new crew on a new Enterprise beginning their voyage 50-100 years after the Dominion War. We need something fresh and most importantly we need hope to return to Star Trek. The vision of a better future is essential to good Trek and it's mostly been abandoned. Enough with the gritty high drama high action stuff. Trek thrives in philosophical sci-fi and in presenting us with a better version of humanity.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 28 points 1 day ago

God am I freaking tired of doomsday plots and imposters in charge of the federation and all of that. I watch Trek because I don't want to see real life there.

Picard season 2 spoilersI legit cannot watch Picard season 2 anymore because of the fires and all of the horrors they saw. (Ignoring plot reasons) because it was just unbearable. Hey watch this show! You can see how fucked the planet is, and by the way you have zero power to change any of it, but let's keep beating you with how bad your world is!

Ffs, bring back the best of the Federation. The ones who don't hate each other, who protect the innocent, who fight for what's right, and it's been institutionalized and at a societal level. I want to see some goddamn utopia shows, I want to believe we can turn this sinking ship around, not be constantly reminded how fucked everything is.

[-] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 10 points 1 day ago

Curious though, what would that be like?

You'd have: • A much friendlier Klingon Empire • The Romulans might be nicer or might not(depending on if they eventually out the whole plot that dragged them into the war) • The Borg would be Pissed over the transwarp hub loss, and might be worried about a joint Dominion/Federation teamup. • The Ferengi are adapting to be nicer and likely more federation friendly within DS9 • The Cardassians would be rebuilding still, but wouldn't be a match for a militarized Voyager+DS9 Starfleet.

Problems start with the two best plot villains being either the Borg or the Romulans and both have been done to Death in movies.

Then that they "modernized" the ship interiors for both SNW and Picard, which would have been a great thing to do with a 100 year jump past TNG/DS9/Voyager.

Discovery had a neat hook once they jumped into the future and it dealt with a Federation that lost warp, but frankly Battletech, Wh40k and Traveller all called and they want their main space travel hook back.

[-] 1SimpleTailor@startrek.website 3 points 10 hours ago

Do the same thing Tng did; make old enemies allies and invent new antagonist.

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 4 points 11 hours ago

The Ferengi are adapting to be nicer and likely more federation friendly within DS9

Ferenginar joins the Federation in Lower Decks

[-] can_you_change_your_username@fedia.io 8 points 1 day ago

Maybe in the wake of their surrender and Odo rejoining them the Founders step back or even go into isolation entirely. The Dominion collapses and there is widespread fighting in the gamma quadrant as different factions seek to take the Founders place. The new series could primarily be set in that quadrant. Maybe the Federation established a foothold in the gamma quadrant so that they controlled both sides of the wormhole and the Enterprise is there to expand the Federation's influence. That would give the writers freedom to introduce new antagonists because DS9 did very little actual exploration of the gamma quadrant.

Edit: gamma not delta

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago

TLDR Because Anton died.

[-] FuryMaker@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

Yeah, it isn't tainted because of that, I can tell you.

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago

Yeah, the headline horribly twists his words. I think he's saying that the experience filming another Star Trek movie in that universe will be forever tainted for the cast.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago

They really did completely fuck with what he said to make it as clickbaity as possible. Fucking scumbags, taking someone talking about fond memories and emotional pain and then mutating it into something hideous for profit.

[-] noxy@yiffit.net 13 points 1 day ago

First Contact was the last good Star Trek movie. I hope someday it's dethroned, but I'm not holding my breath.

[-] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Dethroned? You rate First Contact above TOS films?

[-] noxy@yiffit.net 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I do, yes. Would you like to settle this in a holodeck??

OH WAIT TOS DIDN'T HAVE THOSE

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Generations is the best Star Trek movie ever because it's the first one I saw in theaters. I don't even remember what it's about

[-] ursakhiin@beehaw.org 7 points 1 day ago

A TL;DR could be "time traveling ribbons"

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Now I remember it even less!

[-] Zectivi@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

You know… Every time I hear that Chekov’s absence needs to be explained, I sigh. Chekov was on the Reliant in Wrath of Khan. There’s zero reason they can’t just say that. The Khan arc won’t matter, Genesis may still get made and they may need to find a test planet. It’s not that difficult.

What I really still want is to see the probe from Voyage Home to come looking for the whales. Let’s see if Action ~~Jackson~~ Kirk can figure it out without a Bird of Prey or blowing up the 1701-A.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

More to the point, it's an ensemble show about a pseudo-military ship's crew. Since when has it ever been necessary to explain crew changes beyond "personnel got reassigned?"

[-] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 7 points 1 day ago

The Wrath Of Khan was, is, and forever will be the best Trek movie of all time. TOS cast, 3D space fighting, ear worms, you will forever be my friend, what are you freakin kidding me, you can't beat that, you just can't. I'd like to see some good Trek movies made with a different cast than the Pine one, that's over, run it's course, etc, but you're never gonna beat Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[-] Flamekebab@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago

Something bubbles up from a few decades back:

"I mean, it's a fact, sure as day follows night, sure as eggs is eggs, sure as every odd-numbered Star Trek movie is shit."

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