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[-] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 2 weeks ago

I'm super grateful in this regard to live in Germany, where free doctor visits are not a benefit of something but fucking minimum for literally everyone. Even though it may take a while for specialists. I even get benefits for going to free appointments at the dentist. Safes money and pain later, leading to more productiveness as well.

Was really weird watching "Breaking Bad" just as I had cancer myself years ago (Cancer-free today 🙂). Being in a hospital, receiving anything I needed just by showing my insurance card (for which I didn't have to pay anything either as I was without a job at that point). And as long as our government ain't complete dicks I'm more than glad to pay that back.

The US just weirds me the fuck out. I don't get this selfish lack of solidarity towards your fellow humans.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

What's worse is that millions of people actually find the idea of paying a dime for anyone else's healthcare disgusting. And we don't even get to have a super low tax rate. We just spend our tax money on murdering children across the globe instead of caring for our own. Millions of us see it and oppose it but our society is just sick enough with enough asshole republicans gaming the system in a way that keeps us from doing a fucking thing about it. I wish we were as civilized as nations like Germany.

[-] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

More than once, I hear an ad on the radio about good Christians coming together to help pay each other's medical bills and think to myself that is the very thing they hate so much.

[-] medgremlin@midwest.social 8 points 2 weeks ago

But they get to choose whose medical bills get paid. They can make sure that only "good Christians deserving of Jesus' mercy" are the ones getting assistance. Not some stranger in the urban ghettos with children born out of wedlock, etc.

These are the people that will make the distinction between "drug addict" and "person with substance use disorder" based on demographics like race, socioeconomic status, and religion.

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[-] Anivia@feddit.org 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm super grateful in this regard to live in Germany, where free doctor visits are not a benefit of something but fucking minimum for literally everyone.

Stimmt so aber nicht ganz. Die meisten Leute glauben bei uns wäre die Krankenversicherung verpflichtend, aber nicht jeder Staatsbürger ist krankenversichert.

https://www.aerzteblatt.de/archiv/228031/Menschen-ohne-Krankenversicherung-Ein-oft-uebersehenes-Problem

[-] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 weeks ago

Shit, das Problem habe ich tatsächlich übersehen. 🫣

Zumindestens ist das Problem auch als solches deklariert, da müsste definitiv nachgebessert werden. Ich würde jedoch behaupten das, im Vergleich zur USA, hier die Ausnahme die Regel bestätigt. Rein rechtlich hat hier jeder Krankenversicherungsschutz, es müssen "nur" diese Löcher gestopft werden durch die manche Menschen fallen.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 5 points 2 weeks ago

I'm Italian and here public healthcare gets worse every day, thanks to continuous budget cuts and political incompetence. Nowadays if you want get blood tests in my region you have to wait months, or go through insurance, usually provided by... Your employer. Fuck them all.

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[-] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Was really weird watching “Breaking Bad” just as I had cancer myself years ago (Cancer-free today 🙂).

Congratulations, friend! 🎊

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[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 32 points 2 weeks ago

I’ve discovered over the years that middle class people have absolutely no idea how most of the country lives.

[-] tfowinder@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 weeks ago

Well, most people think they are middle class.

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[-] infinite_ass@leminal.space 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Get a credit card

Use card to pay for getting your teeth done

Burn the card

Wait 7 years

Repeat till dead

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[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 20 points 2 weeks ago

I HAVE dental insurance, NO ONE FUCKING ACCEPTS IT.

[-] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

The "in-network" thing is anyoing. As long as the place has a license and hasn't been a issue, they should be "in-network".

Having insurance tied to a job doesn't help either. if you/family member needs specialist care, so you find a fantastic doctor, but oops your job changed insurance provider and now your doc is out of network.


Complaints aside, if you're actually having trouble finding a dentist; go to your insurance's website, they probably have a "find a dentist" tool or something.

[-] infinite_ass@leminal.space 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, just a 3 hour drive away.

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[-] bluewing@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

This is why dentists in the US decided to not make themselves part of the same system as other medical doctors-- The ADA vs AMA. They get to make their own rules and more importantly, deals to get paid.

And full cash money rules over whatever any insurance company decides to pay you.

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[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Going to the doctor half the time feels like a waste anyways. No matter how sick I am, I’m never given medicine or antibiotics and I’m always told to wait a week to see if it gets worse. It already had to be a big deal for me to go the first time around, I’m basically done after that and resigned to suffering without help. The worst was when I had been perpetually sick with something for 5+ weeks right before Covid first hit, never got anything and doctor was just like, “Yeah, some colds or flus can go for that long.”

For physical injuries though, that shit is important and that seems like something they can treat, but anything else it’s just, “You’re on your own, good luck!”

[-] BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

The last time I went to the doctor was over a year ago, and it was because my mouth/throat was in so much pain I called my friend, who lived 30 minutes away, and begged her to come take me to urgent care while bawling my eyes out.

The initial nurse that comes in is this dude, and I hate male medical professionals when I'm male-presenting: it's like this fucking machismo bullshit. He's trying to do the thing where they swab your throat or are just looking back there, and he's asking me to open wide, and I'm trying but I'm in excruciating pain and apparently couldn't open wide enough.

So he drops his hands in this exasperated/annoyed gesture and goes, "C'mon man, it's not that bad, open up."

I lost it. "Get the FUCK out of this room and send the actual fucking doctor in here! How dare you tell me I'm not in fucking pain when I can't fucking swallow or breathe without tears welling up! Get the FUCK away from me, NOW!!!!" Funnily enough, my mouth was open plenty wide after I lost it on him, and he scurried out the room as soon as she got his swab.

Woman doctor comes in a few minutes later, sees me bawling my eyes out while my friend is comforting me. Doctor doesn't give me any shit while she's examining me, and turns out, I had a serious infection behind my tonsils, not strep like douchebag kept telling us it probably was while telling me to "man up."

Doctor gave me some steroids and told my friend that my, "throat was in really bad shape," and that she was putting in a rush order for antibiotics at the pharmacy. I was to take the pills immediately when we got home, and again roughly 4-6 hours later (this was around 4 o'clock).

She ended our visit with, "Listen, if you take the second pill around 10, and if you're not feeling any better by 10:30, you need to go to the ER for emergency surgery, those tonsils are gonna go septic." But "c'mon man, it's not that bad." 🙄

The pills worked, I survived, but my blood boils just thinking about the whole situation and how comfortable that dude was in his attitude towards patients in pain.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago

Good on you for blowing up at that jackass.

[-] Argonne@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Antibiotics for colds or flu will not help because those are viral, not bacterial. A general doctor should have given you a referral to a specialist. But Antibiotics would be stupid

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Maybe. But after 5+ weeks, you run the severe risk of secondary infection. A "cold" that runs that long, isn't the virus anymore, but the secondary infection taking hold. Antibiotics may not be the right call, but they might be. A "stick it out" attitude on a respiratory infection is the right path, if your goal is pneumonia.

Edit: source- my doctor, when I didn't want to take the antibiotics for a respiratory infection that I had had for 8 weeks. It cleared within 5 days of starting the antibiotics...

[-] BugleFingers@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I hate going to hospitals, especially in cities. They really don't seem to care unless they can physically see how injured you are. I saw an independent nurse and a walk in clinic before they both said to go to the ER when I tore something inside my abdomen. Waited 15 hours to be seen, struggled to breath without pain, and passed out from pain during the Xray. The Dr said I passed out from anxiety and sent me home with nothing and no advice.

One of the absolute worst experiences I've had at a hospital, and all I wanted was to make sure it wasn't my gall bladder. Of course they also charged the obscene US prices too

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[-] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Judgmental bitch. Dental insurance coverage is so much worse than medical it's can be basically non existent

[-] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 17 points 2 weeks ago

Privilege is blinding. The dentist can't fathom how a "normal" person they are speaking to couldn't afford to go to a dentist. It doesn't even register. The dentist then must assume it was pure laziness or apathy.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

And yet they're still a working class wage slave.

[-] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago

Probably more like petite bourgeois. But still more in common with the person in the chair than the actual bourgeois .

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[-] CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

I do have insurance, as we're legally required.

Haven't been to a dentist for years even tho i need it, the money isn't there. Insurance only covers it for a small amount if you pay a premium, which i'm not doing obviously.

I went to my childhood dentist after being unemployed and homeless, dad was convinced the government would get me a house and when i lived with him they told me "no, that's the old system". He didn't believe me so he kicked me out because he was so sure of himself.

When i got to the dentist after a couple of years he started pointing out what premium things i needed and how i could afford them after saving the money from the years i didn't go. I tried to explain to him like an adult that i had lost my savings and was pushed into homelessness and unemployment.

He then decided to get his ego bruised and started calling me names.

I got pretty sick of his childish behaviour and decided to never come back.

I tried a differenr dentist when i was actually ready and could see myself build up the funds again, but i ended up having to move for a job and life has only gotten more expensive while my wage stayed stagnant.

Right now i'm making more, finally but it's at a job i'm not sure i can physically handle. It's been 4 weeks now and it's 4 weeks of backpain and painkillers to keep going.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

Even if I did go to a doctor, it might be because most insurance covers seeing a doctor but not dental shit.

[-] poweruser@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] pixelscript@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

It's such a stumble of history that teeth were historically associated with barbers and not doctors, causing the dental practice industry to evolve separately from all other medical practices. Bullshit how a vestige of that lives on today in dental insurance coverage being its own special snowflake thing.

[-] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 12 points 2 weeks ago

I've been working nonprofit for a couple of decades but it hasn't supported me well. I haven't been to the dentist in 22 years. I'm thankful I don't have any tooth pain. My wife is in the same boat. We had worked side jobs and hustled during COVID to put away some cash for it, saved up $19k. Only to need massive foundation/waterproofing work on our home. Now we're broke, my job contract ends in less than a month. I was worried about my teeth, now I'm worried about my family being homeless.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Docs tend to lose sight of the fact that everyone is not able to pay their fees, some even with insurance.

[-] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not murican so money isn't the problem for me.
Its a crippling fear of doctors founded by a single dingle berries mistake over 10 years ago causing a year of problems and a skin transplant.

[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 weeks ago

Many countries outside America does not cover dentist in social public health services.

They like premium bones or something.

In my country we have public healthcare but not dentists. If you want teeth you have to pay.

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[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

In Canada the public health cover doesn’t cover dental so you’ll have little luck in that category. You might get a free cleaning and scan but little else. It’s like one of the few things they’ve been dragging their feet on still.

A lot of people live on Advil until the tooth falls out on its own. Or if they can afford the cheap option: have it pulled.

You still need to get private coverage for anything more.

[-] DerArzt@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

It's a good thing teeth aren't part of the human body!

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[-] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

There’s a recent federal Canadian dental health care plan that expands the options for people who make under 90k a year or something along those lines.

Might be worth a look

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[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 weeks ago

People with mild discomfort (e.g. a persistent cough) fill up most of the emergency rooms where I'm from, since the hospital is free. Unfortunately what this means is if you have a non life threatening problem, you have to wait in the same room as people with colds and flues that should be in bed waiting it out and eating soup.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

to be fair, if you have a bad case of the flues you should be in the ER.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 weeks ago

A bad case, yes.

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[-] Volkditty@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

People at my new job talk about how great our dental benefits are. I found a dentist, scheduled a new patient exam (4 month wait). They told me I needed a cleaning and scheduled it for 3 months in the future. Two months after that, they stopped carrying my insurance.

I found another dentist, 6 month wait for an appt this time, was told I needed a cleaning, got a call the following week that they were no longer accepting my insurance.

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

The UK's dental care is also not really covered by the NHS beyond a few emergency procedures, and even when it is (assuming you can get onto an NHS dentist's register) it costs a significant amount of money (70+ for checkup and dental work) once you turn 18, so I can imagine that most people just don't bother.

I've already resigned myself to getting most of my teeth removed or replaced, as painful as that is, because I spent years without dentist cover thanks to COVID and generally refusing to spend the costs on checkups (as bad an idea that was)

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