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[-] CTDummy@lemm.ee 233 points 4 months ago

I mean props to him seemed like he was “wow yeah, fair enough”. In “other” countries that protester would have been beaten into a coma.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby 166 points 4 months ago

It's the "i'm not paid enough to cause a civil war" expression. Dude just put his hands up like a roller coaster about to take a plunge, he know who his real enemy are but still have to make it look tough.

[-] CTDummy@lemm.ee 101 points 4 months ago

Yeah feels that way. The hand up feels more like he’s with a sparring partner than “enemy of the state”. He’s got a rifle slung and doesn’t feel like he even thinks the protester will go for it. Pretty level headed by all involved including the guy conducting the ol’ spineroo.

[-] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 86 points 4 months ago

Serious props to that dudes form. Clean grab, followed up by a good secure with the freed second hand, just enough force behind the spin and push to send the message without making himself a direct threat.

That's solid form, all around.

[-] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 63 points 4 months ago

Don't forget holding his phone in the other hand the whole time

[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 154 points 4 months ago

i mean military just showed up, did absolute minimum just so that they can't be prosecuted for refusing orders, and when parliament voted martial law away some of them left (before being ordered so) then the rest left anyway. they knew what was going on and didn't want part in this

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 56 points 3 months ago

I mean, conscription sucks etc etc, but this is why you want it. You *try* to make it so that the average citizen is represented throughout the military so that it's not just one group of gung ho violent dickheads that self select for abuse of power.

Also, it means the guy in the crowd can also put up against that kind of bullshit as a civillian.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 3 months ago

Conscription is slavery.

What you want is to revitalize the concept of the citizen-soldier.

The problem with that as applied to a modern society instead of like, ancient Mediterranean cultures is that we just don't need that many soldiers anymore.

Yet...

[-] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago

Conscription is slavery.

Hardly. They're paid. There are exemptions for medical conditions and other things (I think medical students get exempted, and some choose to serve with the police, instead.) It's not a perfect system by any stretch, but it's not slavery.

That said, I'm against it overall. There are more and more rich kids "mysteriously" getting exempted. You're expected to join by the age of 22, which interrupts university for many. And, it promotes a huge boy's club where they learn to smoke and drink and preserve the patriarchy. It's created a large gender divide where many young men are upset women are finally starting to get something closer to equal treatment (still not equal by any means) in the workplace here, but men are still expected to serve their time while women finish their higher educations and get a head start in the workplace. Honestly, if they're going to have mandatory military service, they should just make it mandatory for women, too.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

1: If you force someone into labor with the threat of violence or punishment, it's slavery, and you're at best arguing about semantics and adding extra steps.

2: There are plenty of slavery systems that pay slaves nominal wages, especially slave soldiers. The most famous historical example is probably the janissaries:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janissary

3: There's probably an argument to be made about how it's just a social need when you're at war or have an aggressive neighbor but the problem is ultimately that the society hasn't created a system where the citizens actually like the state enough to volunteer.

[-] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

force

Is a loaded term. They are not making anyone who is physically or mentally unable in any way to do it. They are compensating those who do do it. (Yes, the pay is bad.) They get ample vacation time. There are many ways to postpone it or to replace it with some other form of public service. Many (most?) Koreans see it as their civic duty. It's not so different from paying taxes or attending public school. Are those things slavery? We live in a society...

[-] nuke@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

we just don't need that many soldiers anymore.

I know we're being noncredible but damn

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The classical republics expected literally every male citizen to train regularly and purchase at least some of their own arms and equipment as part of it, with wealthier citizens supplying more expensive material for everyone, aka, the well regulated militia.

Non-crediblenessousity aside I don't think America needs 175 million soldiers.

You can argue that "citizens" wasn't as inclusive then as we expect it to mean now but that's still a hell of people unless a cool war starts again.

[-] nuke@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Not America, no. But I see the benefit of conscription with turds like North Korea on your border.

America needs 175 million soldiers

I came violently upon seeing these words and wasn't able to read the surrounding text.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 3 months ago

disqualified from service for gooning about the service

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

Are you saying you don't want 175M American soldiers? Get outta here with that...

More guns = better. Come get some Canada, we're ready this time.

[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 months ago

political power grows out of barrel of a gun like they say few borders north. it does make sense to make everyone participate, but it's always a tradeoff

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 months ago

I don’t understand why they tried to grab the phone in the first place?

[-] nuke@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 months ago

Probably so they could snap a selfie together

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ya, my first thought seeing that was if it was the US they might have gotten shot doing that. Both sides handled that well.

[-] unreachable@lemmy.world 81 points 4 months ago

try to grab phone

get samsung-ed

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

My SO is Korean and if there's one thing I've learned, it's don't take a Korean's phone. There's a Taikwondo sword in the closet to remind me that my SO is way more hardcore than me.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 31 points 4 months ago

I need to go outside... I read that as "get ratio'd."

[-] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 25 points 4 months ago

Hey, if you have a shit connection, you can watch that frame by frame and really savor it! For once, peasant life works in my favor. 🎶Hay rakes UP and they stay UP 🎶

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

I can almost hear him say “bitchass” as he shoves him

[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 18 points 3 months ago

"Man, you didn't have to do me dirty like that" *tries to bully the closest citizen

[-] mo_lave@reddthat.com 16 points 3 months ago

Not only he got rotated, but it was caught in 4K

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 10 points 3 months ago

Including him realizing he got rotated in 4k!

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 months ago

He even raised his arms up knowing he was going to get his ass kicked.

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 months ago

Waking up today to hear there was a coup attempt in South Korea that was just six hours long was wild. Can't wait for the k-dramas to cover a slightly fictional version of it in a year or two. Hopefully starring Ji Chang-wook as the main character.

[-] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 15 points 4 months ago
[-] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 14 points 4 months ago
[-] CTDummy@lemm.ee 24 points 4 months ago

Lmao. “Understandable, have a nice day sir”.

[-] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

한 장 할까?

[-] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago

I see a static image seems I'm losing some higlights from the SK coup attempt?

[-] Remotedeck@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 3 months ago

Just a dude getting rotated

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 months ago
[-] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

Like someone who doesn't want to be there

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 5 points 3 months ago

He might be a table, cuz he got turned.

[-] joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

When I click the static image it opens and plays as a gif.

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

Canada should have this, otherwise the Bears will overtake us by the next harvest

[-] Hackworth@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Can I get a read on whether this is Ki Aikido?

[-] DogWater@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago
[-] sirico@feddit.uk 2 points 3 months ago

Get rotate,potate

[-] AresUII@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Bro distracted a whole ass country from Johnny Somali.

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 3 months ago

Steven Segal would be proud.

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