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submitted 3 weeks ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

Summary

Donald Trump’s advisers are proposing plans to end the Ukraine war that involve territorial concessions to Russia and ruling out NATO membership for Ukraine.

These proposals aim to pressure both sides into negotiations, leveraging military aid as a carrot or stick. Plans include freezing current battle lines or creating demilitarized zones.

Analysts doubt the feasibility, citing likely resistance from Ukraine, European allies, and U.S. lawmakers.

Trump’s approach reflects his campaign pledge to resolve the conflict quickly, but critics argue it risks legitimizing Russian aggression and undermining Western alliances.

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[-] nogooduser@lemmy.world 68 points 3 weeks ago

President Zelenskyy could have ended the war many months ago if he’d just agreed to all of Putin’s demands. Who knew?

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

But then Russia would just be forced to invade some more later because they simply can't help themselves. So Zelensky should do the right thing and hand over all of Ukraine so that Russia doesn't have to go through so much trouble again. All the Baltics and EU should do the same so poor old Putin can finally take a nice vacation.

[-] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 62 points 3 weeks ago

So essentially his plan to "end the war" is to force Ukraine into submitting to all of Russia's demands?

He couldn't be much more overtly in bed with Russia if he tried... Might as well just wait for the photos to leak of him in a rather grotesque threesome with Elon and Putin at this point.

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 54 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Wow, what a fucking horrible idea. Not only will this fail to end the conflict quickly but it all but guarantees another one. Let's hope Ukraine's other allies are up to the task if Trump actually tries to follow through with this dogshit plan.

[-] Pyrin@kbin.melroy.org 18 points 3 weeks ago

Translation: Trump handing over territory to his butt-buddy separated at birth Putin.

[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Who cares what the orange felon wants? Not his country to make decisions on.

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You say that, but without the US military support it will be rough for Ukraine. The EU has spent a bunch of money to get all other kinds of aid to Ukraine, much more than the US. But the US has supplied more military support, more than the EU. If the US stops helping out, the EU will probably not be able to fill the gap. And Trump can put pressure on the EU by threatening to pull out of Nato again. If Russia decides to invade more countries and the US leaves Nato hanging, the EU is in trouble. Now these are a lot of ifs and since Trump has been elected the EU has been preparing. Plus laws have been passed in the US to prevent Trump from pulling out of Nato, but you know how much Trump cares about laws. Once the EU feels like they don't need the support from the US any more, Trump has nothing to say anymore, but we ain't there yet.

[-] perestroika@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

But the US has supplied more military support, more than the EU.

The US has supplied a lot of aid, and aid that cannot be obtained from elsewhere, but in terms of volume, the EU has gradually passed it by.

Sadly, it seems unlikely that the EU can ramp up weapons industries much faster. Ukrainians themselves have stated that without US assistance, they would run a serious risk of losing the war.

[-] ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

If he's claiming he'll drop the US out of NATO, why does he think his (concept of a) plan, for the alliance that he hates, has any weight at all? Fucking dipshit.

[-] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Magister@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Trump: if Ukraine refuses my plan, I turn off the tap of $/weapons to you! if Russia refuses my plan I send tons of shitload of weapons to Ukraine!

EDIT: it is written in the article

halting military aid to Kyiv unless it agrees to talk but boosting assistance if Russian President Vladimir Putin refuses.

[-] Pringles@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

I don't get why you are being downvoted. That is exactly what his position is, which would be clear to anyone who actually read the article.

[-] Magister@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I don't know too, it is the exact plan of Trump, either stop delivering weapons to Ukraine, or increase delivery

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