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[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago

You guys know what Guy Fawkes was trying to make happen, right? RIGHT?!

[-] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Heroes aren't always good people. Their reasons are lost to time to the average person, but the message is remembered. The actions supersede the reason.

Guy Fawkes is not remembered as a person, he's remembered as a figure.

Not calling this a good thing.

[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

He’s remembered as a figure who wanted to kill all of Parliament and return the nation to an absolute monarchy.

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 year ago

He’s remembered as a figure who wanted to kill all of Parliament ~~and return the nation to an absolute monarchy.~~

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Yet another bombing attempt by a far right terrorist.

Also, is this meme about Guy Fawkes or is it about V?

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 22 points 1 year ago

V definitely did not want a monarchy

[-] venusaur@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[-] SnowmenMelt@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Tried to blow up UK parliament with the king inside centuries ago because the king was the wrong kind of Christian. Got caught and hung. In the UK we celebrate the capture every 5th November with a bonfire and fireworks, some places even burn an effigy of guy on the bonfire but that is becoming less common.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Imo your country need more blowing up of parliament.

[-] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

To be honest, not only their country

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 31 points 1 year ago

Guy Fawkes is the idea, V is in the image, different ideals

[-] ours@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Yep, V had no trace of Fawkes' pro-Catholic motivations.

[-] jared@mander.xyz 27 points 1 year ago
[-] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 year ago

I mean immediately sure but in reality he was just an early al-qaeda prototype trying to spread his religion by blowing people up

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

Yeah... Of all the antigovernment people to latch onto it's vaguely unfortunate that we landed on fawks. Like, I do get that it's a pop culture reference more than an actual historical reference, but still.
There was legitimate persecution of Catholics in England at the time, so it doesn't least have a veneer of fighting tyranny, but he didn't even actually succeed.

Shoulda gone for Louis Lingg. A bit more modern, and had the awesome criminal defense that "it's his right to fill his house with dynamite".

[-] anachronist@midwest.social 9 points 1 year ago

He wanted to kill King James. Regicide is always based.

[-] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago

every folk hero, just as, for instance, any of the national myths, are mostly entirely made up, and as more time passes, the less historical truth remains. This, simply speaking, is folklore, that has nothing to do with actual history, its more about communicating ideas and ideologies, that you imply with the story you're making up, tying it up to real historical characters is just a way of cheap advertisement. I believe, we must not ever forget that, as we are destined to have lots of useless fights otherwise.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Between Anonymous, Occupy, and proud boys all using the same mask, the only shared symbolism for the Guy Fawkes mask is really "resistance" of some kind. Which is so broad, it's hard to call it a symbol at all.

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago

Did the Proud Boys not understand that the government V opposed was homophobic, Islamophobic, and hyper-christian? Did they not understand that the movie has multiple gay heroes? Did they not understand it was directed by trans women? The Proud Boys aren't V! They're the Party!

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Did the Proud Boys not understand

No

[-] XEAL@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

You guys know what V was trying to make happen, right? RIGHT?!

[-] FromPieces@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

A cursory check that I'm too busy to give my full attention indicates that, maybe(?) the motive of the Gunpowder Treason was to improve religious freedom?

[-] remer@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago
[-] lesnout27@feddit.org 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Uiop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

Rember 💯🦆

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Is this what the cops are saying he changed his clothes into now?

They ought to start calling him the clean assassin with how frequently he changes clothes.

[-] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

"I know of no reason why CEO open season should ever be forgot."

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

"Hello? Based department? I found you a new recruit."

[-] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

stop larping

[-] httperror418@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Pepperidge farm remembers

[-] RiQuY@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Can someone share the origin of this meme? (The hooded smiling man) I can't find anything on Know Your Meme and it's everywhere.

[-] klemptor@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago

That's the dude who shot the United Healthcare CEO

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Doesn't look like the same guy to me.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

He was with me on a wilderness camping trip the whole time.

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Look up Guy Fawkes. I don't remember all the details but I think he was some French guy who got executed for something.

Unless you're talking about that specific person wearing that outfit in which case he's from the movie V for Vendetta with Natalie Portman and Hugo Weaving.

Edit: I don't know how to read.

[-] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

British, he hosted a failed terrorist attack against the monarch.

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I knew I got the details wrong. Thanks for the correction!

Even though I completely misunderstood what that person was asking about lmao

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