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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by Sunny@slrpnk.net to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/15995282

Real unfortunate news for GrapheneOS users as Revolut has decided to ban the use of 'non-google' approved OSes. This is currently being posted about and updated by GrahpeneOS over at Bluesky for those who want to follow it more closely.

Edit: had to change the title, originally it said Uber too but I cannot find back to the source of ether that's true or not..

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[-] bradboimler@startrek.website 1 points 4 days ago

I use McDonalds App all the time on GOS this only affect you if you use Google Pay when checking out to my knowledge.

[-] floreana@poliverso.org 3 points 6 days ago

@Sunny
Gatekeeprs of wealth sticking together against the ambition for freedom of poorer people?
Oh, color me surprised. 🙄

(I want to de-Google step by step, thanks for the heads up).

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 343 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This makes me want to use GrapheneOS more. If the dataminers don't want you to use it then it must be doing something right.

[-] 0x0@programming.dev 47 points 1 week ago

Too bad it only runs on Google's phones...

[-] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 65 points 1 week ago

It's only officially supported on google phones because sadly those are the only ones that are not modified to fuck which makes installing and supporting other OS'es way too much work.

Giving google money once for a device is not a problem from a privacy or security standpoint.

[-] Samsy@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 week ago

That's correct, but not the reason grapheneOS chooses only pixel phones. It's the level of hardware security features.

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[-] Charger8232@lemmy.ml 134 points 1 week ago

This is very bad news, because this means any app that wants your data could do the same.

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 130 points 1 week ago

On the other hand, it makes it easy to find which apps aren't to be trusted with your data.

[-] themurphy@lemmy.ml 62 points 1 week ago

Also very obvious when an app or website have an US and an EU version. You just know they buttfuck the Americans because no rules.

Even Apple had to make two versions of iOS.

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[-] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 100 points 1 week ago

Fuck both of these companies. Never used McDicks app in the first place. Spyware bullshit.

[-] 3dogsinatrenchcoat@slrpnk.net 45 points 1 week ago

The mcdonalds app is a scam to get you to agree to their arbitration clause

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[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 95 points 1 week ago

Odd timing considering I've banned McDonalds, Revolut and Authy from my phone.

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 86 points 1 week ago

Just to be clear, they banned all custom roms, not only graphene.

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[-] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 83 points 1 week ago

McDonalds? Uber?

They both have fully functioning webapps btw.

[-] Wilmo@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago

Right people who install various apps like McDonalds apps etc, are these even typical to GrapheneOS users? I'd think most would avoid superfluous data stealing apps.

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[-] zako@lemmy.world 74 points 1 week ago

the problem here is not the banks or apps, the problem is Google Play Integrity API, which is supposed to enforce to run apps in secured phones and it is used to ban secured ROMs such as GrapheneOS and it allows to run apps on outdated phones without security patches.

[-] kevincox@lemmy.ml 122 points 1 week ago

which is supposed to enforce to run apps in secured phones

The point of the Google Play Integrity API is to ensure that the user is not in control of their phone, but that one of a small number of megacorps are in control.

Can the user pull their data out of apps? Not acceptable. Can the user access the app file itself? Not acceptable. Can the user modify apps? Not acceptable.

Basically it ensures that the user has no control over their own computing.

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[-] Anivia@feddit.org 58 points 1 week ago

Time to switch away from Auth I guess. Not even using GrapheneOS cause I have a Samsung phone, but this is not acceptable

[-] Sunny@slrpnk.net 28 points 1 week ago

Highly highly recommend Ente Auth!

Also featured on Privacy Guides

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[-] penquin@lemm.ee 54 points 1 week ago

Webapps everything you can like I do with Firefox and ublock origin. Fuck these assholes.

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[-] olafurp@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago
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[-] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 week ago

This surprises me because McDonald's app is hands down the worst app I've ever encountered in the history of all Android apps.

It's is sluggish, ignores touches/taps half the time, doesn't adhere to Android best practices for flow, crashes a lot, errors a lot, etc.

But OK McDonald's. Fuck off.

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[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 week ago

OK McDonald's, I will not use your most cost effective ordering method. I guess I will just have to order my 10 individually custom cheeseburgers at the counter instead. I might have to have e the order read back, and change my mind about a few burgers.

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 110 points 1 week ago

As a former employee... That does nothing. Crazies that spend 15 min to order some fries were common.

If you go at rush hour it can be annoying to the employee and other customers, but at the end of the day nobody will remember and you would have spent 20 min and 10 dollars (which is 9 dollars material profit for MacDonald).

Just. Don't. Go. To. Macdonald's.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 72 points 1 week ago

Just. Don’t. Go. To. Macdonald’s.

Best advice on the menu

[-] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world 85 points 1 week ago

Just stop eating at McDonald's.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago
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[-] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I can't prove it, but I'm 99% sure Lyft did the same thing. Had a perfect rating (and was even a driver at one point), and they banned me without explanation right after I switched to GrapheneOS.

Emailed them a few times asking for the reason, and they refused to tell me.

_"Legally, we cannot release any additional information except that we found your account to be violating our Terms of Service.

We will be in touch if we are able to reopen your account in the future."_

There's absolutely nothing else that they could've misconstrued as "violating the Terms of Service."

If Uber's going down the same path, no more ride-sharing for me I guess. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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[-] Samsy@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 week ago
[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 week ago

I don't think it's a coincidence that the shittiest companies are those, who enforce Google's broken and monopolistic "Play Integrity" API. Revolut has connections to Russia, McDonalds supports the Israeli genocide in Palestine and Authy has always just been a massive piece of shit, not even allowing users to export their TOTP seeds. These are three companies I would NEVER even consider using anyway.

And "Play Integrity" API actually does NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING for your security as an end user.
You use an outdated, unpatched Android version with multiple severe, publicly known exploits on an insecure device?
Google doesn't give a single fuck.
You use the newest version of Android with all the patches applied on Google's own hardware, with a locked boot loader and a hardened operating system?
That's not allowed by the "Play Integrity" API.
It's only purpose is to serve Google's monopolistic business interests.

[-] mercurial@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

What are Revolut's connections to Russia except its founder/owner's nationality? /nm

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[-] eleitl@lemm.ee 29 points 1 week ago

Apparently, they don't need my business. Acceptable.

[-] AnEilifintChorcra@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 week ago

Lol I spent a week going back and forth with Revolut support in august. I could sign into the app but it would always ask me for a "selfie" verification and every time support would say its a super dark selfie.

Eventually I decided to try a stock ROM and it just worked and I realised what was happening so I transferred all of my money out and deleted my account.

Most local banks here are terrible at making apps, some even require a separate device that looks like a calculator to use online banking, so hopefully they wont follow suit anytime soon

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[-] tisktisk@piefed.social 29 points 1 week ago

Is this not a sign of the true intentions on both sides of the dilemma here!?!?
Let us go to the end. We cannot afford to carry on in fear of these bans. Let the lines be neatly placed and the sides chosen wisely. If sustained profits are desired, the walled-gardens must come down.

Vote with your dollar and vote again with your data. Wary, but never afraid is the motto privacy comrades!

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