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[-] shiroininja@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Threatening the hospital that was denying my father care, leaving him to die, was the only way I got into the literal board room to reason with them. I got them to resume treatment after they dicked around for a month and he refused to leave because he was going to die if he left.

He still died because he was so sick at that point that they couldn’t do the procedure he needed when he first arrived.

So I threatened them in 2010, and I’d fucking do it again now for my child. We are supposed to stand up for our loved ones.

[-] obre@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

It's disgusting. There needs to be legal recognition of all that is at stake for patients and their families. The denial of necessary care is structural violence and should be treated as such by everyone.

[-] shiroininja@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Agreed. It’s straight up murder

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 0 points 7 months ago

got them to resume treatment after they dicked around for a month and he refused to leave because he was going to die if he left.

I had to play this card once, too. I was in the cardiac unit for 28 days, and they were going to send me home because they couldn’t figure out what was wrong, and the insurance decided I wasn’t worth the expense anymore.

I refused to leave until they gave me a diagnosis, because i would have just died otherwise.

Pretty sure the healthcare system still wants that.

[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago
[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Dysautonomia causing SVT and sinus arrest. I have a loop monitor now and am on heart meds.

e: they wanted to send me home with ‘anxiety’.

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

So, no free speech in the US after all?

[-] QuincyPeck@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Depends on how much money you have.

[-] Quexotic@infosec.pub 1 points 7 months ago

She said "Delay, Deny, Depose. You people are next," according to the article.

[-] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 1 points 7 months ago

I imagine the "Delay, Deny, Depose" didn't get her in trouble nearly as much as the "You people are next" part. Yeah, that's a bit hostile there.

[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Please, marginalized people get more explicitly threatening crap said to them all the time and people rarely get arrested or charged for that. She's being charged because the system wants to make an example out of her. The judge basically said so himself at the bail hearing,

"I do find that the bond of $100,000 is appropriate considering the status of our country at this point," the judge said.

[-] CgH10N4Co2@lemmy.cafe 1 points 7 months ago

Proof that the justice system only serves the wealthy.

[-] Stopthatgirl7@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Remember this the next time the cops tell someone they can’t do anything about a stalker or angry ex threatening to kill them until they actually act. They can do something. They choose not to.

[-] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

Per the GoFundMe, she was released and charges dropped:

Hi everyone, it looks like the county released Briana with no charges, so I stopped the campaign. See here: https://www.polksheriff.org/inmate-profile/2435323 I am looking how to run a gazillion of reimbursements on this platform.

[-] Erasmus@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

After being charged with threats to conduct a mass shooting or an act of terrorism, a judge set Boston's bond at $100,000.

"I do find that the bond of $100,000 is appropriate considering the status of our country at this point," the judge said.

[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

For responding with the catchphrase insurance companies themselves created and live by. This isn't the suspect's catchphrase, but apparently even uttering these words back at health insurance companies is too much for them.

[-] Pandantic@midwest.social 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Well, “depose” isn’t pat of it. The killer added that part.

"you people are next," also isn't part of it.

[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

You mean basically the same sort of vague threat Trump has thrown around for decades that no one does anything about when it isn't directed at the rich, just at society in general?

This discussion has nothing to do with Trump. But, Trump should absolutely be in prison for his threats.

[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

Ah, sorry, didn't realize all we had to do to solve the world's problem was switch over to idealistic make believe land.

[-] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

"You people are next" does seem pretty threat-ish, however:

After being charged with threats to conduct a mass shooting or an act of terrorism, a judge set Boston's bond at $100,000.

That is completely out of touch with what happened. "You people are next" not an act of terrorism.

[-] na_th_an@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

It's hard for me to agree this is a threat after media has spent years explaining why all of Trump's language is actually never threatening or inciting violence, even after his language incited violence.

[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Delay, deny, and depose the FBI. The FBI isn't acting like this during a Trump presidency, this is the most lenient it gets at, during a democratic presidency. With a Trump presidency, Americans should familiarize themselves with current Russian society to know what they should expect for its future. Fuck your messed up police state, Americans, and fuck a constitution that only seems to be propaganda bullshit that is too much for the FBI to live by.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Trump LITERARILY incited a violent mob that killed a cop and the FBI was like "ugh, we're so weak our hands are tied 😭"

But some lady venting over our shitty healthcare and there they go like Rambo.

This is why people don't trust cops, and this is why people hate the rich.

[-] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I agree with the end of what you wrote, but I thought the mob didn't actually kill the police officer? I try to absorb news from diverse sources so I'm used to getting different versions of a story. I wonder which version is more spun?

Edit after writing that comment, I looked at the wiki article about it. I guess the police officer was pepper sprayed by two rioters, one of whom got 7 years prison for that. The officer died the next day of two strokes. There was some misreporting about the cause of his death, but it was ruled natural causes. That determination also ended up a little controversial.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/11/us/who-died-in-capitol-building-attack.html

5 people died during the riot.

As far as I'm concerned, Trump is directly responsible for those.

[-] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 0 points 7 months ago

That article isn't very great, and since it was written just 5 days after the events, it had to be later corrected. It sounds like there were realistically only two deaths that were related to the events of the day. One was maybe crushed trying to push through a police line. One was shot by police. The officer, I already addressed in my edit he died of strokes the following day, ruled natural causes. One was a trump supporter who died of a heart attack, and another was a trump supporter who died of a stroke, but it didn't sound like either of them were involved in the mob activity. I'd be curious to read a more recent analysis of those five people's deaths, the wiki today doesn't read much like that article about the police officer.

[-] 4lan@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

You're right within 5 days there weren't all the deaths. Four officers killed themselves due to the events of January 6th. I guarantee they were Republicans who had their own people attacking them for doing their job.

[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Remember folks, the company reps you interact with are generally not the ones making the rules they are paid to abide by. They're working for a living, just like us.

With that, calling this an "act of terrorism" is an incredulous overreaction that just goes to show how badly they're shitting their pants right now.

[-] chakan2@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

They’re working for a living, just like us.

They're part of the machine that sucks the blood of the people. I wouldn't advocate violence, but they're not worthy of our respect.

[-] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 0 points 7 months ago

I've quit jobs because of ethical concerns before, these people don't make a living just like me.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Imagine having the privilege of not having to compromise your morals because you can get a job just like that in this economy

Edit: yes, y'all apparently are rocks or trees. The rest of us need to eat for sustenance and have responsibilities beyond " what news headline will garner my outrage today"

[-] pixelscript@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

Regardless whether you support her general conduct, I think we can all rally around one tenet here:

Don't harass a shitty company's T1 support out of priciples against the company in general.They're in no better position to effect change in the system than you are. They exist only to be slightly more competent phone robots, turning your whiney noise into itemized actions, and filter those actions down to a restricted subset of system commands the company permits them to do.

If anything, they're on our level of the totem pole. Any outrage directed at them for actions of their broader company are a gross misdirection and wholly counterproductive.

I don't know who this lady was speaking to on the phone. But if it was some minimum wage phone bank slave who is just the ablative frontline of the customer support hotline, I don't support her threat in that context.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This is a dumb take. Their frontline workers should take the brunt of what the public feels. That is the point as you can't get to anyone higher up. Maybe people won't want to work there anymore and they will have to pay much higher wages to attract people.

Sounds like a win to me. Company goes under because no one wants to work for them knowing the public hates them or they will get paid enough they don't care.

In your world we can't show hate because someone isn't paid enough and it isn't their decision. It's not their fault. But then you can't access the person who is at fault so there is nothing you can do. This is fundamentally broken concept and is akin to resignation.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

Found a Karen on Lemmy wow

[-] satans_methpipe@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

The first amendment to the Constitution of the United States does not protect speech that threatens or incites violence.

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 months ago

Without the means to do it it’s not a threat.

How do you know she didn't have means to do it?

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That’s up for the ~~cops~~ courts to prove. This is a sham case. If trump said that shit he would be applauded “oh that’s just trump being trump!”

[-] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

He literally said that Liz Cheney should be shot in the face, and nothing happened.

[-] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago
[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

Freeze Peach is only when they're calling for war and lynching people they don't like. When it comes to ACTUAL controversy you go to jail right away!

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

I knew those frozen peach yogurts were up to something

[-] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

This will definitely ease tensions among the masses and rouse support for the Healthcare execs lmao

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I don't know about insurance but I worked once alongside a Google call center DB team, for adwords and they received lots of messages like these over inbound AND outbound calls, emails or chats.

Google is EXTREMELY strict with threats issued to their own employees, even third party contractors, to the point they would ABSOLUTELY and without chance of appeals blacklist people like this person.

To dimension the sheer scale of being blacklisted by Google, that means that every IP address they ever registered you using, be it by VPN or whatever, gets thrown in a black hole you can never escape

Google services or accounts you linked using those IPs? Fucked forever.

If you were part of the unlucky people who get a static IP set, get ready to start a lengthy process just to remove your account from being associated to that one.

Marketing manager accounts? Screwed for life. Might as well say goodbye to your job and consider never advertising through adwords again.

And I'm not even touching what happens with devices, payment processors, YouTube, educative domains and, worst of all, corporate compute instances.

If Google didn't destroy you in those cases, your company and your bank certainly will.

So yeah, if Google takes that shit seriously, you bet a healthcare provider will do the same

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