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[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

He was quoted out of context. He wants to separately eliminate daylight, savings, and time.

[-] smeenz@lemmy.nz 1 points 3 months ago

Works on contingency? No, money down!

[-] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

Seeing a lot of talk on here about keeping Standard or DST.

Oh my God for the love of all that's holy just let them pick one!

I don't care if the sun comes up at 2:00am or 2:00pm or even if the sun fuckin' sets at 12:00 noon. Just pick a time and stick with it. Holy shitsnax.

[-] Coherence@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Couldn’t have stated it more succinctly myself. Just pick one and stop this idiocy

[-] invie23@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 3 months ago

I would just like to point out that you in fact did a great job stating it more succinctly than the post you replied to 😄

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 3 months ago

To avoid confusion, all of the US will be on DTT (Donald Trump Time), which will vary based on where he currently is.

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Will y'all shut the fuck up and act like you don't want this? You're going to ruin it.

We absolutely need to start protesting this so he makes it a priority.

[-] shplane@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Dang, I sure do love that Obama created daylight savings time. I hope it never goes away. Thanks Obama!

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Some, if not all people agree that this makes him the YUGEST PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME

[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago

This is literally how to shape his entire presidency and keep him from completely destroying the country. This move right here, every time.

Let’s make a list of things and how to complain and stick to the script.

I’ll go first. Man, I love tariffs!

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

The only way that Democrats will eventually come out on top here is massive tariffs. We have to get the word out and thank Donald Trump for his concept of a plan on tariffs.

[-] AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Can we get rid of timezones and switch to UTC please

[-] Kernal64@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago

I don't want it to ever be -03:00. That shit is confusing as hell.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Aotus says a lot of things including how he would like to bang his daughter.

[-] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Finally something even the left can get behind.

[-] Nithanim@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago

Every time this topic comes up I wonder how many computer systems this will break. Maybe we find out soon if this is really realized.

[-] caden@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 months ago

I'd bet it actually simplifies as least as many things as it breaks. Basically all computers already keep track of time as a count of seconds since a UTC epoch anyway, and then do timezone conversions on top of that.

[-] Nithanim@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago

Well, in essence yes. But I have seen enough mishandling and homegrown stuff of custom date-time calculations that this could get interesting. I suspect that there are a lot of systems where the TZ database is never updated which at least will result in shifted displayed local time.

Also, it is fun to get data from old programs and also from userinput where the actual offset has to be guessed from the timezone. And if that conversion data is old, fun is had. It does not matter how time is represented internally in this case.

[-] bss03@infosec.pub 1 points 3 months ago

As long as they can get tzdata / Olsen db updates before the first change, there's usually no problem. But, I'm sure there are still devices out there using the OLD US switchover dates from the Bush era, because they have a different, possibly "hard-coded" rule set.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

It wont be too bad. If you mean computers used commercially, Unix keeps a running total of seconds since the epoch and DST only affects whats displayed as time. Nothing will fundamentally change for these systems. In windows server products it wont be a problem, and some windows clients use an automatic patch process. Air gapped computers may have some hacky process around DST, but its a pretty solved problem.

[-] smeenz@lemmy.nz 1 points 3 months ago

There are probably hundreds of thousands of devices out there that are smart enough to know about time zones but old enough that there no chance of a software update, for example APC UPSs and power strips used in data centres world wide and years beyond end of support.

[-] bss03@infosec.pub 1 points 3 months ago

Great policy. Misogynistic, racists, liar will say anything for attention, tho.

[-] djsoren19@yiffit.net 1 points 3 months ago

If I remember correctly, the issue last time is that they wanted us on permanent Daylight Savings Time, instead of Standard Time. So I expect Trump to force the U.S. onto permanent DST, just because all science says it would be worse for us than going to Standard.

[-] Joelk111@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but I want permanent DST. I want it to be light when I get home so I can spend some time outside without a flashlight. I don't care if it's dark in the morning, I'm working. Don't tell me to just work different hours, I already work 6am-3pm, which is the earliest I'm allowed at my current job, and a lot earlier than allowed by many jobs. I still only get about an hour before dark where I live.

[-] HerrBeter@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Sunrise here 10:20 and sunset 12:30. Darkness is our fren

[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Darkness is our fren

Have they come to talk with you again?

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

God I hope he doesn’t ruin this long overdue improvement.

[-] SacredHeartAttack@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

This was on the docket to be voted on in 2023 (i think, could have been 2022) and it never made it to the floor. Why? His cronies. They just let it fall by the side, probably so they could do it now. I’m so sick and tired of this shit show if a govt. Failed fucking state.

[-] TTH4P@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

This needs to be top comment. So many little things he does that sane people like are just things Republicans blocked until they could be the ones to do the thing.

[-] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 0 points 3 months ago

Besides impotently complaining about it on the internet, what else can we do about it?

[-] JoeyHarrington@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Impotently complain harder

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago

I don't know who chose that headlining image of him pointing (and looking) at the sun, but it's perfect.

[-] rjthyen@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

I want it to stay sprung forward, can't remember if that's DST or non. I feel like I'm in the minority, but fuck if I care if it's dark in the morning I want sunlight for longer once I'm done working...

[-] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The far-right former brasilien president did the same

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

This is one policy I would like to see followed through with.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Literally the only good idea he's ever had.

[-] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago

Permanent Standard Time people are weird. I do not give a shit if its dark when I'm going to work, but seeing the sun going down at 3pm fucks with my mental health. Winter is miserable purely for that reason, I can deal with the cold, not that.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

Isn't standard time when the sun sets later? I remember after our dst change the sun goes down much quicker

[-] Kitathalla@lemy.lol 1 points 3 months ago

No, think of it from the same point. On standard time, the sun would be setting at, let's say 1642 hours. If on daylight savings time, the sun would be setting at 1742 hours.

[-] 4grams@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I mean, I have no great love for DST, but I have no faith that they can do anything but completely fuck it up somehow. Whatever results will be at best, no measurable improvement, but at least a monumental pain in the ass for those who have to do the work to keep shit on schedule during the morass.

[-] marker2002@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

They're going to move it 30 mins to meet in the middle...

[-] tehbilly@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

I mean it seems to work for India, Nepal, etc.

[-] lengau@midwest.social 0 points 3 months ago

If they're using the 2022 bill they're already fucking it up. Kids are going to be walking to school in the dark in winter and get hit by cars because they want to pretend that we're a few thousand miles east of where we actually are.

[-] Kitathalla@lemy.lol 1 points 3 months ago

So maybe we could do the other thing that scientists have been saying, and make school start later. Obviously just one of the things that would need to be fixed, because school is currently a glorified daycare (because both parents are working, yay) and changing the times would fuck up parents' lives.

[-] numbermess@fedia.io 0 points 3 months ago

I wonder how he'll make it worse.

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

He's going to rename it Trump Time.

[-] SlothMama@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago
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