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submitted 14 hours ago by Nyxicas@kbin.melroy.org to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I ask because I feel I need to save some money in the oncoming months. Currently, I pay over $76 for 100MBps/1000GB cap. And I don't think it's a bad deal, but they're going to be hiking it up to $90+ by next October and I feel it is not worth that. But I also need to save money too.

What is the difference between 55MB and 100MB when it comes to speed? The cap for the 55MBps plan is 350GB and I tried asking if that could be altered but the ISP says they can't. This plan will cost me $30 a month.

All I ever do anymore is just stream YouTube, sometimes Hulu/Netflix/Tubi. Occasionally I'll download a game or two, multiplayer gaming is non-existent.

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[-] Pulptastic@midwest.social 1 points 50 minutes ago

Last summer I switched to Tmo 5G home internet. At my location it beats the 100/20 cable plan I had at half the price. YMMV, my last house only 1/4 mile away it was unusably slow, like 20/1

[-] Moonguide@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

I've been gaming and streaming most of my life with sub-30mbps download and sub 15 upload speeds, didn't have symmetrical 50+ until a year ago.

As others have said, you have to plan ahead. If you need to download something large, let it be and go do something else while it does its thing. Streaming high quality on two screens or more is doable but you'll buffer eventually.

You can probably set up some rules on your router to prioritise whatever device you deem most important, however. Although, if its important enough to warrant a rule on your router, it would probably be better to just plug an ethernet cable in anyway.

[-] flashgnash@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I was on 50 max for a while, it's perfectly fine for pretty much everything but big downloads will take longer

(I was gaming online on voice chat at the same time my family was streaming and there wasn't any issue)

I have just upgraded to 500mb for about £35 a month though your pricing is rough

[-] essell@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago

I thought I was overpaying for my 1500Mbps at £75

Thank you EU for your many blessings.

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

DSL is the only thing available-outside of Starlink--in my area. My service is rated at 25Mbps. For almost everything it's fine. It will take most of a day to download a PS5 game, but it's fine for streaming video.

[-] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 10 points 7 hours ago

To me in Italy, which generally has shitty internet by europe standards, your rates are horrifingly terrible, expensive, and inexplicably capped. I pity your network

[-] Knuschberkeks@leminal.space 5 points 7 hours ago

I went from 100 Mb/s to 50 Mb/s about 1.5 years ago, and to be honest it is enough but can be an annoyance. Streaming is no Problem, even two concurrent 4k streams work (tried on youtube, Netflix and Disney+). Downloads just take a while so if you have to download larger files you need to plan ahead a bit. Also, streaming while performing large downloads is tricky. In order to avoid constant buffering you'll need to either significantly reduce your streams quality or set um some priorisation rules on your network.

[-] toastal@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 hours ago

I pay $15 / mo for 600 Mbps symetric in Thailand. But I go off the beaten path with just my cell as a hotspot which is 10 Mbps for $90 annually. I can do almost anything I want with even those speeds—just make sure you are blocking ads (uBlock + DNS) to stop all the sludge from gauming up your pipes.

[-] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 38 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Make sure you’re not mixing up MBps and Mbps. Internet speed is almost always measured in megabits (Mbps) not megaBytes (MBps), the former being 1/8 of the equivalent megabytes per second.

55 megaBYTES per second is just fine, that’s a full HD movie download in about 3 minutes. 55 megaBITS would be about 24 minutes for the same thing. Would that matter to you? No idea. But if you’re currently at 100, everything would take about twice as long as before the switch regardless.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 31 points 14 hours ago

May I ask what city and state you live in? These options seem terrible.

[-] lgmjon64@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago

I was thinking the opposite. I have 1 option for "high speed" in my town, and it's $90 for 12Mbps that rarely actually gets to that speed. I just barely switched to starlink and it's been amazing.

[-] Nyxicas@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 13 hours ago

Des Moines Iowa.

Yes I know the options are terrible and I am aware if alternative ISPs but my apartment management only offers just one ISP. It is not Verizon or any other big name, just some not so well known company with a site design from the 90s in every bad way.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

May I humbly suggest Verizon 5G home internet. I checked and it's widely available in Des Moines. Around $45 a month with a discount if you also have Verizon mobile. 300mbps down and like 30 up. No caps. It's just a white box that uses cell towers, so you are not limited to whatever shitty service your apartment complex has contracted with. I used it for 2 or 3 years in Providence, RI, and it was terrific. Cheap, fast enough for my work needs and streaming on 2 TVs, and I never had any problems.

[-] Nyxicas@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 19 minutes ago

Tried doing an area search, only got a form for my address to notify me when service is available.

[-] kiwifoxtrot@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Try tmobile's wireless internet. They usually have an option to try free for 30 days. Depending on where you live it can be a great alternative.

[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 13 points 12 hours ago

Note to self. Do not move to Des Moines. I pay $60/mo for symmetrical gig (1000 Mbps) with no cap.

[-] skizzles@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Why does your apartment management have a say in it?

If there are other providers in the area then you likely already have lines running to your place and shouldn't need their sign off on it.

[-] Nyxicas@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 8 hours ago

Because they are the shitty kind. Here is what I do not get, I have seen CenturyLink and Mediacom vans come in my area. I assume it is to service people's connections or other things. If my apartment management tells me that VisionSystems is all that they can offer, why do I see vans from other ISPs come here?

And Mediacom isnt too far from us either.

Mediacom and CenturyLink claim to not service my building though so something is not adding up.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

This practice is allowed and it sucks. Try wireless.

[-] randombullet@programming.dev 3 points 12 hours ago

Maybe T-Mobile home Internet is good enough?

[-] enbee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 14 hours ago

Yeah that’s pretty cheeks pricing. I pay less than double that for symmetrical gig speed.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

I pay $65 a month for Verizon Fios with Symmetrical gigabit

[-] enbee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 58 minutes ago

Tell me where you live. I want to go to there.

[-] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 10 points 12 hours ago

Wow that is expensive.

In NZ I'm on a 300/100 plan with no data cap, for $77/month. That is about $43USD/month.

[-] thisisbutaname@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 8 hours ago

I have 800/300, no caps, for like 30€/month. Those prices are insane.

[-] fuzzyspudkiss@midwest.social 5 points 10 hours ago

It definitely is, middle of nowhere Indiana here - I'm getting 1000/1000 for $95 and no cap. But I'm lucky enough to be in a location with competition, lots of areas in the US only have one option so they get charged whatever the ISP wants.

[-] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 7 points 10 hours ago

95 fucking dollars a month?!? And you reckon that's a good deal?

I'd call it Stockholm syndrome but even the Swedish know you're getting fucked up the ass 😂

[-] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 1 points 9 hours ago

For ~$100USD/month 4000/4000, no caps.
For ~$80USD/month 2000/2000, no caps.
For ~$60USD/month 1000/1000, no caps.

[-] cone_zombie@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago

I pay $5 for 100Mb/no cap. I'm not from the US though

[-] Montagge@lemmy.zip 2 points 12 hours ago

I pay that much for 6/0.512

[-] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 2 points 11 hours ago

I'm not sure what to say....that really sucks.

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 15 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Speed wise 55Mb/s is fine. Higher speeds are nice for game downloads/etc but that's plenty. I had to live with 3Mb/s until a couple years ago, and we were able to have multiple people watching Netflix/etc on different devices. Not 4k obviously, but surprisingly good video quality for the amount of data available.

The data cap could be a problem though. You'll probably be fine if you don't download many games, but that's an easy cap to hit these days.

[-] tburkhol@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago

I would expand this to say that it matters how many people in the household. For one person, 55 Mbps is fine for streaming video and 350 GB is fine for downloads, unless you're d/l multiple AAA games. 350 GB might also cause trouble if you do significant cloud backups.

If you're in a household of 4 people, that 350 GB is likely to bite, and 55 Mbps is likely to struggle if you're all watching something different.

[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

For context, my family of 5 has used 1.7TB/mo on average this year. That’s gaming, video and music streaming, and regular interneting. And all that without downloading large files most of the time, occasional OS updates withstanding for 10 always on devices. We’re on 500/500 fiber and it never skips a beat. Usually the bottleneck is the WiFi being on WiFi 6 or the server on the other end not being able to keep up (Netflix’s Tysons fight comes to mind). I haven’t seen the need to up it to 1G or 2.5G yet. This is with no enforced cap (we’re lucky enough to have competition on the backbone so it’s unlikely to be enforced). The OPs cap would absolutely be a no go in this setup. Not sure what the OP’s usage and needs are though.

[-] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 6 points 12 hours ago

I regularly self throttle to 5 Mbs – you’ll survive.

If anything there might be a slim chance that you’ll hit your data cap of 350gb.

Assuming you’re just doing 480/720p streaming you should be good. But if you download 2-3 recentish games that might kick you over.

You might try turning on data gathering on your router if it offers it to see how much you are using.

In terms of bandwith to stream things you won't have a problem. Some high quality stuff can get to around 55Mbps (bits per second). But most streaming services send you the lowest quality shit imaginable so you're probably using less than 20 at any given moment.

That data cap is much more concerning to me, how much streaming do you do? At 10Mbps (typical streaming quality) that's about 3 straight days of watching video which sounds like a lot. But many AAA games are >100GB in size and that's 1/3 of your data right there.

[-] Nyxicas@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 13 hours ago

I watch maybe 2-10 videos a day. Lengths between 2 minutes to a couple videos clocking an hour. I do not watch anything beyond 1 and a half hours unless it is a movie and that video is interesting enough.

I sometimes have audio streaming for background noise when sleeping but audio streaming is practically chump change so it is no factor.

Game downloading averages 100MB to 4GB at most with bigger games rarely ever being a thing.

[-] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 3 points 14 hours ago

I'm at 70 Mbs. That's enough for 3 people streaming on various devices and one kid gaming.

350 GB for $30 sounds terrible. I'm in the EU but we get unlimited plans for that amount.

[-] satanmat@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

It depends… you say several times “I”. So yeah if it is just you, 55 is likely fine.

If you are the only one, watching something, then yeah likely you’ll be fine

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago

A single 1080p Netflix stream will consume about 4Mbps.

If you just stream music and media and browse the net, that's an easy way to benchmark. If you're gaming, higher speeds will not increase performance of online gaming - this requires quite little and depends more on latency (satellite/star link vs cable/fiber etc). The higher speeds will only help with more concurrent users or game/media downloads (if you pirate media, for example).

[-] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 2 points 14 hours ago

I'm not an expert but I think you should be fine on the lower one. My understanding is that most plans wildly overemphasize what you need for an activity. Like they'll say the most expensive one is for gaming but in reality the cheap one would work completely fine for a single person.

I used to have 55mbps and I never had any issues. You won't be downloading huge games in minutes but just plan ahead and you'll be fine.

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 hours ago

55mbps down will be enough when lower cost is most important. it's about the download speed we have at the office (55mbps), and at home too (faster but network gear is slower than the pipe coming in, so 55-60mbps is what i get on the main pc).

we can have a remote desktop going with multimedia coming through that (for work; low bitrate but latency matters), 2-3 hd streams, a couple screens on web sites, something downloading a huge batch of updates, an online 'shooter' game being played, and still not worry about loading up something else to use some more.

for straight downloads from servers and cdn that can handle it, expect 2-4 minutes for a typical linux iso download, and for big downloads about 25 gigabytes per hour max.

[-] technocat@lemm.ee 1 points 13 hours ago

You'll be fine on 55mbps. That's what I was on for the last decade in Denver. Has no issues with bandwidth in my household.

[-] phpinjected@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 13 hours ago

hoping to start a community intranet as the internet sucks and is shit nowadays

[-] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 1 points 14 hours ago

I started on a 50Mbps plan which was a massive upgrade from what Comcast offered at the time, so I was pretty pleased with that. At one point I noticed something dragging down my connection, and found signs of people attacking my servers. That was easily dealt with, however what surprised me was the speed of the traffic I was seeing. After blocking the attack I pushed up my torrents and realized I had been upgraded to a 100Mbps connection and didn't realize it (I really do love my local provider!).

So yeah, for general web browsing you probably won't notice any difference between those two speeds. If you are downloading specific content then of course the downgrade will take twice as long, and as others mentioned it shouldn't affect your streaming speeds at all.

[-] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I don’t think it’s necessarily horrible but with slow WAN speeds it might be worth it to set up a DNS caching server and potentially caching proxies for whatever services you use (this used to be easier for generic HTTP before encryption).

For example, macOS has Content Caching for caching Apple software updates. You can also cache repositories for several Linux distributions, Docker, stuff like that too.

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