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[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 41 points 4 months ago

At a beach restaurant the other night I kept hearing a loud American voice cut across all conversation, going on and on about “AI” and how it would get into all human “workflows” (new buzzword?). His confidence and loudness was only matched by his obvious lack of understanding of how LLMs actually work.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago

"Confidently incorrect" I think describes a lot of AI aficionados.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 16 points 4 months ago

And LLMs themselves.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I would also add "hopeful delusionals" and "unhinged cultist" to that list of labels.

Seriously, we have people right now making their plans for what they're going to do with their lives once Artificial Super Intelligence emerges and changes the entire world to some kind of post-scarcity, Star-Trek world where literally everyone is wealthy and nobody has to work. They think this is only several years away. Not a tiny number either, and they exist on a broad spectrum.

Our species is so desperate for help from beyond, a savior that will change the current status-quo. We've been making fantasies and stories to indulge this desire for millenia and this is just the latest incarnation.

No company on Earth is going to develop any kind of machine or tool that will destabilize the economic markets of our capitalist world. A LOT has to change before anyone will even dream of upending centuries of wealth-building.

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[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 16 points 4 months ago

Some people can only hear "AI means I can pay people less/get rid of them entirely" and stop listening.

[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

AI means C level jobs should be on the block as well. The board can make decisions based on their output.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

The whole ex-Mckinsey management layer is at risk. Whole teams of people who were dedicated to producing pretty slides with "action titles" for managers higher up the chain to consume and regurgitate are now having their lunch eaten by AI.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 10 points 4 months ago

I've noticed that the people most vocal about wanting to use AI get very coy when you ask them what it should actually do.

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[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I really like the idea of an LLM being narrowly configured to filter, summarize data which comes in at a irregular/organic form.

You would have to do it multiples in parallel with different models and slightly different configurations to reduce hallucinations (Similar to sensor redundancies in Industrial Safety Levels) but still, ... that alone is a game changer in "parsing the real world" .... that energy amount needed to do this "right >= 3x" is cut short by removing the safety and redundancy because the hallucinations only become apparent down the line somewhere and only sometimes.

They poison their own well because they jump directly to the enshittyfication stage.

So people talking about embedding it into workflow... hi... here I am! =D

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[-] nroth@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago

"Built to do my art and writing so I can do my laundry and dishes" -- Embodied agents is where the real value is. The chatbots are just fancy tech demos that folks started selling because people were buying.

[-] bradd@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Eh, my best coworker is an LLM. Full of shit, like the rest of them, but always available and willing to help out.

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[-] LenielJerron@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

A big issue that a lot of these tech companies seem to have is that they don't understand what people want; they come up with an idea and then shove it into everything. There are services that I have actively stopped using because they started cramming AI into things; for example I stopped dual-booting with Windows and became Linux-only.

AI is legitimately interesting technology which definitely has specialized use-cases, e.g. sorting large amounts of data, or optimizing strategies within highly restrained circumstances (like chess or go). However, 99% of what people are pushing with AI these days as a member of the general public just seems like garbage; bad art and bad translations and incorrect answers to questions.

I do not understand all the hype around AI. I can understand the danger; people who don't see that it's bad are using it in place of people who know how to do things. But in my teaching for example I've never had any issues with students cheating using ChatGPT; I semi-regularly run the problems I assign through ChatGPT and it gets enough of them wrong that I can't imagine any student would be inclined to use ChatGPT to cheat multiple times after their grade the first time comes in. (In this sense, it's actually impressive technology - we've had computers that can do advanced math highly accurately for a while, but we've finally developed one that's worse at math than the average undergrad in a gen-ed class!)

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 months ago

The answer is that it's all about "growth". The fetishization of shareholders has reached its logical conclusion, and now the only value companies have is in growth. Not profit, not stability, not a reliable customer base or a product people will want. The only thing that matters is if you can make your share price increase faster than the interest on a bond (which is pretty high right now).

To make share price go up like that, you have to do one of two things; show that you're bringing in new customers, or show that you can make your existing customers pay more.

For the big tech companies, there are no new customers left. The whole planet is online. Everyone who wants to use their services is using their services. So they have to find new things to sell instead.

And that's what "AI" looked like it was going to be. LLMs burst onto the scene promising to replace entire industries, entire workforces. Huge new opportunities for growth. Lacking anything else, big tech went in HARD on this, throwing untold billions at partnerships, acquisitions, and infrastructure.

And now they have to show investors that it was worth it. Which means they have to produce metrics that show people are paying for, or might pay for, AI flavoured products. That's why they're shoving it into everything they can. If they put AI in notepad then they can claim that every time you open notepad you're "engaging" with one of their AI products. If they put Recall on your PC, every Windows user becomes an AI user. Google can now claim that every search is an AI interaction because of the bad summary that no one reads. The point is to show "engagement", "interest", which they can then use to promise that down the line huge piles of money will fall out of this pinata.

The hype is all artificial. They need to hype these products so that people will pay attention to them, because they need to keep pretending that their massive investments got them in on the ground floor of a trillion dollar industry, and weren't just them setting huge piles of money on fire.

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[-] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 4 months ago

So you're saying we wont have any crowdsourced blockchain Web 2.0 AIs?

[-] razm@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago

Quantum! don't forget quantum, you filthy peasant.

[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Please, stay with the time. We're at Web 6.0 already.

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[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 5 points 4 months ago

Bye bye XBox ._.

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