If you ignore the leads Valerian was an incredible set.
The desert bazaar sequence was actually tolerable.
But yes, the art department deserves full recognition.
I don't think that's a particularly hot take. Pretty much everyone thinks that it was good with the minor exception of for a the actors.
I don't get the fuss about the leads, either. Came in with no preconceptions & thought it was fine. 🤷
It felt like two highschool drama rivals inexplicably got cast in a big budget show piece. I don't know who the characters are, but they had the chemistry and acting skills of porno step siblings.
Lady in the Water by M. Night. I think its an amazingly crafted fairy tale.
Upvoting you out of sheer respect, but wow I can't believe there is someone out there that enjoyed that hot garbage.
I cannot remember a single thing about the movie except that I recall loving the way in which the story was told but hating the story itself.
All I remember is a dude with one jacked arm
For me: The JJ Abrams Star Trek movies, by far the best ST stuff ever made, I couldn't take seriously the original universe with the dated effects and stiff acting, same goes for NG... These movies did ST actually great looking and much more believable, not just the effects.
Just kidding... but not really.
Yeah, to each their own, but if you think this, you don't understand why people like Star Trek.
Dude if in universe they talk about hyper advanced races or warlords without mercy or AI and all the have is actors in shitty make up or awful "martial arts" and sword fighting, then the new movies are better by default. It's about immersion
The latest matrix. I liked it for the critique that it is.
Yeah, I wasn't that excited about the idea of sequel in the first place, mostly because I didn't think there was much point to one. So when I saw Resurrections I was actually pleasantly surprised, and genuinely enjoyed the different tone and lamposting of the dumbness of unnecessary sequels.
People hate the JJ Star Trek films? I've only ever heard nothing but praise for them.
A lot of Star Trek fans didn't like them. Star Trek trends more towards, "traditional," sci-fi, which is more focused on exploring scientific and philosophical concepts in fiction (think Jules Verne or Isaac Asimov). What Abrams produced was basically just an action movie in a futuristic setting. It's sorta like how, even though Star Wars is set in an advanced galactic civilization, it has more in common with the fantasy genre than traditional sci-fi.
That doesn't necessarily mean classic Star Trek is better or smarter than the Abrams movies or Star Wars. In fact, a lot of Star Trek is cheesy, dated, and kinda dumb (and not just the original series; even TNG has a lot of cringe in it). However, it does mean that the Abrams films were a pretty big genre shift that put a lot of fans off.
I enjoy both. The original series is so dated (buttons, knobs, switches, and lights on the control panels? Pffff) that even as a fan I find it hard to look at.
No one seemed to take the show that seriously. I don't think anyone had a clue it would turn into a whole franchise, and the acting is so hammy I can't stand looking at a lot of the scenes.
All that said that even old start tell movies were more action oriented than a typical episode plot. (Except for maybe the first movie, which unless I'm remembering wrong literally was almost a carbon copy of an episode)
For me, what becomes even more dated than the old tech are the cultural attitudes. The original series is supposed to be an egalitarian, utopian society, but they men treat the women like it's an episode of Mad Men. TGN, on the other hand, is trying so hard not to be sexist that the romance scenes sound like they were written by a virgin who only learned about sex from HR meetings.
I didn't mind the first Abrams movie. I thought the story was pretty mediocre, but it looked good visually, and they captured the characters nicely. The second movie went off the rails, though. They invented interplanetary transporters and cured death. It feels like that would have had massive, status quo changing consequences for the entire franchise, but I guess not.
The original movies certainly have more action in them than the series (though they're definitely not as action-packed as the Abrams movies), and they're also not as interested in exploring sci-fi concepts as the show, but to me, they're defined by fan-service more than anything else. They found an excuse to put the characters in modern times, let Kirk create peace with the Klingons, and literally met God.
Yeah that was a bit crazy. But I didn't really think about it too long because almost everything else is supposedly a whole other timeline now, so it's a not point.
Also I've seen "Beyond" twice now, but got distracted both times so I still don't know much about it.
I honestly thought Morbius was a breath of fresh air for ditching the "Self-aware, meta, woke!" trends that MCU was chasing and just told a dark transhumanist story with super heroish themes.
Like I'd rather watch Morbius again than most of the MCU films made Post-End Game.
And Warcraft really wasn't a bad movie at all, it was just bitten by the "Anything that is in the Fantasy Genre is automatically a LOTR ripoff!" bug that had been going around for awhile.
If it had came out around the time when audiences stopped caring about what critics think (Sonic's 2020 film seems to be where that started), it would have done a lot better (Sonic leading the way for video game movies being taken seriously also would have helped)...
Hell if Warcraft (2016) had come out in 2020, that would have been after Blizzard's fall from grace ("Don't you guys have phones? No? Time to shit all over the WoW lore and ruin Overwatch then!"), meaning that people would probably
Finally, I'm still firmly in the camp that in 10 years people will come around on the sequels like they did for the prequels (Last Jedi might still be considered the "Not as good" one admittedly). I can't say the same about the various "Franchise fatigue? What's that?" shows that Disney ~~kept~~ keeps greenlighting though.
"Alcolyte was a good show, but no one saw it? Damn, time to release Skeleton Crew I guess!"
Breakin'
Breakin' 2 Electric Boogaloo
Surf Ninjas
All arguably bad. All enjoyable and I have a good time watching them.
Arguably? lol
Me and about a dozen other people thought John Carter was great. To me, it was just a fun sci-fi/fantasy movie. Never undestood the hate.
John Carter was only hated by people who follow box office numbers instead of watching movies.
It was great!
My gal hates it because she's a huge fan of the book and apparently they did the whole of it pretty dirty. One of those, "it's fine if you weren't hoping to see anything that made the book unique" type movies.
My go to for that criticism is that it's a different medium, so it must be different.
It's like complaining that a photo of Statue of David doesn't show the whole statue.
Counterpoint: if I sell you a photograph which I advertised as of the statue of David and it's just a zoomed in picture of his back, you would be in your rights to complain about leaving out the important parts.
I'm taking a big risk after experiencing your last post, but... I actually really loved Prometheus. Alien is in my top 5 movies list, but I still enjoyed it.
I don't get the hate for it. It's weird, tense, spooky and exciting with good looking scenes and interesting characters. It's not a perfect film by any stretch but I goddamn love a psychopathic robot any day.
I don't like the thesis of the movie. It had everything going for it, but the script. Ridley Scott seems to not like scientists seeing as how every scientist dies an ironic death.
Green Lantern. I went in expecting cartoony quips and got what I expected. Everyone calls it a stupid movie like they went in expecting Shakespeare and found the Muppets. I went in expecting a live action comic book, and yeah that's pretty much what I got. Fun show, watched it a few times now.
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