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[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 68 points 2 months ago

Gestures at the current state of affairs

I don't think patience is working guys.

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 9 points 2 months ago

But stabbing your neighbor isn't exactly something most people are willing to do.

And any sort of attempt at organization leads to Alphabet Squad raids and whatever bullshit charges they feel like throwing at you after deciding you're guilty of being a dirty commie/socialist/librul/not them.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

We really need to not stab our neighbors, anyway. CEOs, however.

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[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Butt stabbing sounds like the perfect way to get the message across.

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[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 55 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Unpopular opinion:

Alienating liberals doesn't create more leftists, it only causes people to be dismissive of the term and dig in their heels.
Insulting them rather than educating them does nothing but divide anyone left of center and after the last election I think it's abundantly clear that we need to be unified rather than divided.
No one is going to argue that left leaning candidates aren't far from perfect, but they're a hell of a lot better than the far-right fascists were about to have in power in less than 2 weeks.
Yes, I agree modern liberals are too centrist and ineffective but at the end of the day they're light-years ahead of the far right, and I'd rather be agitated about having another centrist administration than alarmed and outraged at the onset of fascism.

[-] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 2 months ago

Liberals facilitate fascism

[-] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 months ago

That's why it's important to communicate with them rather than alienating them.

[-] gravityowl@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago

You're talking as if for over a year (cough decades cough) Palestinian activists hadn't tried talking to the liberals about their party's unshakable support for the ongoing genocide.

What's left to say to people who are "going to pick the lesser of 2 evils" even when you showed them that their pick is still funding the ethnic cleansing of all Palestinian people?

We should talk to general leftist people. Not the liberals. They still value money and profit over people

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

i probably would have taken that liberal stance long ago, but i had people explain their views to me in a good way that eventually made me rethink some of the things i held as truth. its just that it doesnt happen overnight. im not saying anyone will be convinced but the socialist strategy of getting people talking about political topics in a consistent organized way actually helps a lot here.

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[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 months ago

I don't think they really are "light years ahead of the right". Most of the difference as far as I can tell is in how they talk-- not what they do. Liberals fundamentally just believe in the status quo. MLK Jr saw it the same way when he described " the white moderate" as the greatest obstacle to change.

I'm definitely willing to engage liberals (and even conservatives) in honest conversation when I feel the context warrants the effort. Lemmy rarely seems to qualify.

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[-] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Welcome to the world, this is not the US

Also, nah, socialists don't want to befriend fascists like Biden or Harris

[-] bouh@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

The liberals have to do their mea culpa, not the left. Right now it will soon be a matter of choosing a side : humanism or fascism. Until now the liberals always chose fascism and called the leftists dangerous extremists.

Choose a side liberals. You made the world what it is today. And you're now blaming the leftists and asking them to support your insanity. That's not how it works. Leftists know which side they are fighting for, and they will suffer the consequences. What about you liberals?

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

last election I think it’s abundantly clear that we need to be unified rather than divided.

Who's "we"? Liberals are not on the left and are ideological enemies of the left: you can't be unified with people who fundamentally oppose you.

Also, which election? Oh right, you're one of the those American liberals who think foreigners are fictional characters. That explains why you think leftists would want to ally with the people committing genocide against these "fictional characters"

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[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

thats not an unpopular opinion though? maybe on the west? revolutions happen by convincing your fellow brothers, not by force or manipulation.

this is the hard part imo, we all have to go against the media machine.

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[-] Galds@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago

One time I was called right extremist and left extremist by the same person on the same day I guess that I am the entirety of politics now

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 21 points 2 months ago

Certified grill master

[-] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 27 points 2 months ago

Okedoke, well I just learned that I have no concrete grasp of political labels and need to do a LOT of research.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 39 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Extreme simplification:

Liberalism: supports capitalism. Current system + tweaks

Leftism: supports anticapitalism of some form, the two biggest umbrellas being Marxism/Communism and Anarchism

Marxism/Communism: supports collectivization, public ownership, and central planning (I have an introductory reading list if you want to learn more, or just read Principles of Communism)

Anarchism: supports full horizontalism and networks of communes

[-] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 11 points 2 months ago

Thank you for the reading list! I'll take a gander :)

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[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

We're the People's Front of Judea, not the FUCKING Judean People's Front!

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[-] Lootboblin@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

and if somebody wants to know where that character is from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moomins

[-] Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 months ago

!moomin@sopuli.xyz if you are interested in the comic!

[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 months ago

I'm not sure I'm politically knowledgeable to know what a liberal is

(This is a joke, and I don't need anyone to explain it to me. The thing I struggle with is discerning whether the people I'm talking to at any given point know what a liberal is)

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 months ago

Sometimes it's not worth the fight.

[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago

I feel like most self described liberals would be leftists if they actually looked into it anyway

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

That's my experience, generally. The ones I can get to read a bit of theory tend to be more sympathetic towards Socialism.

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