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Perceived authenticity.... fucking morons
They're not morons. Trump, Musk, super PACs, and the GOP are spending collosal amounts of money to mislead them. It's not their fault that it's working.
I don't care how much propaganda and polished ads you put in front of me. If you can't see Trump for the sleazeball narcissist conman that he is after a DECADE of near constant televised and tweeted unfiltered rants from this dickhead, along with his actual actions when he was in office before, you are a fucking moron. Period. When the guy himself says "I'm going to commit atrocities" and his propaganda machine says "he meant that metaphorically, or he was joking, or he was saying that just to trigger the libs, or he meant it but not the way it sounds, etc.", and then the guy says "no I meant exactly what I said. I will commit atrocities. Bad ones!" You can't go "Well geez, I'm hearing all sorts of conflicting information in the media. Who knows what you can believe? I'll just assume that he meant whatever is most agreeable to me," unless you're a dumbass.
They literally were wearing diapers for Trump. It's a cult and cult-thinking.
Yes, if you get drawn into a cult, it does say some sad things about you as a person, how undeveloped you are, and how much you desire to be accepted as part of a group above all else. Getting drawn into a cult means you probably seriously lack interpersonal skills, and thus acceptance of any type is a joyous gift to you, even if the acceptance comes from horrible people. Cults prey on these kind of people for a reason.
I'm with you, there's no excuses at this point, it's a kind of mental sickness and it needed to be addressed years ago.
"The establishment" is the only thing keeping red states going...
So I am not familiar with us elections but arent there other candidates then democrats and republicans? Like 3rd party? If they don't think trump will deliver, but dislike democrats, can they not vote someone else? Or spoil ballot? Here we also ended up with so far pretty useless labour but at the very least doing nothing is better than more years under conservatives or worse, racists that musk is keen to promote these days.
Here we have a choice of either useless labour or retarded fucktards, so I vote 3rd party. At least it fucking shows not everyone is looking at the two main ones. But looking at our shit turn out, we have similar apathy
A functional voting system that allowed for the success of third parties in the United States would be great. Unfortunately, without ranked choice voting, voting for a third party candidate just means splitting the vote for one's next-preferred candidate. The most recent example of this would be George H. W. Bush's re-election loss in 1992, due in part to Ross Perot's popularity as a third-party candidate.
As things stand, the pragmatic choice is therefore to vote for the lesser of two evils. While I'd vote for a third-party candidate in a heartbeat if they had a realistic chance of winning, when the choice is a isolationist, corrupt, bigoted felon or anyone else, the easy choice is anyone else.
Stupid people voting against their own best interests isn't news.
They complain about jobs being industrial decline due to the outsourcing of manufacturing jobs, but then blame inflation on efforts to increase the minimum wage to a living wage, rather than corporate profit-gouging.
While many of them might not mind living in a country with a class of underpaid manufacturing workers—presumedly the undocumented immigrants they simultaneously want to deport—the better option is to invest in economic development that bolsters the country's modern service economy, or specialized manufacturing facilities that can compete without needing ineffective tariffs.
And when Trump implements those tariffs, rather than recognizing their role in inevitable price increases, those same people will instead blame underpaid workers, inevitable counter-tariffs, or anyone else but Trump.
They also won't recognize that any economic growth in the next four years won't benefit them in the slightest, but rather go straight into the pockets of those responsible for outsourcing jobs in the first place. All the while supporting them, with anyone else just needing to 'pull themselves up' with imaginary bootstraps.
Things aren't fine. Anywhere. 2 years ago. 4 years ago. 10 years ago.
It isn't about the solutions to these people, and why should it be? Both sides have been in power, neither side made a material difference to the situation of the general population in the rust belt.
So all that's even left to resonate is tone, and at least the "This country has been ruined" message from the R's at least aligns broadly with the general angst.
Yeah. Too bad it’s the R’s that fucking helped ruin it. Fucking idiots vote for the very people that screwed then in the first place and then convinced them how bad things have gotten.
I'm not going to say both sides are equal, they aren't.
But, look at this graph and I think you'll clearly see the differences between R and D control of the government.
Or, you won't, and see that regardless of who's been in government, there has been almost no impact on real wages while productivity continues to climb.
OBVIOUSLY wages aren't the only measure of how things are going, and OBVIOUSLY To leadership has made many things meaningfully worse for many people.
But like, there are some GLARING issues that are responsible for a massive chunk of people's unhappiness and neither party has the balls to do anything about it so they're both just running identity politics playbooks. It's pathetic.
I can get it. These were dyed in the wool democrats, or at least their parents were. The Democrat party hung them out to dry with free trade, and abandoned them through ineptitude or unwillingness to resist decades of Republican strong arm politics, and relied on them as a reliable bloc the whole time.
It's not a choice I could make, but to denegrate working people for having literally no place to turn doesn't seem like it's been working out.
It's the party's duty to serve the people. If they don't do that it's dumb to expect anything in return. Republicans got lucky/had crazy good strategy with making Jesus a Republican. They're lying, but it's working.
Parading around the Cheney family? One upping Republicans on all their talking points on immigration and Israel? Those of that voted against trump sure as shit didn't vote for the Democrats, we just voted for Republican lite.
If the democratic party wants to do something about it, they're going to have to start by differentiating the left from the right.
Trump just called everyone assholes and won the presidency twice.
I don't get how anyone thought voting trump was a good idea. I understand where they're coming from even if I don't get how they got there.
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