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[-] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 month ago

Short version: yesterday, Lemmy.world announced essentially, though they buried it under lots of distracting verbiage, that they were going to follow in the footsteps of Vichy Twitter and Meta and allow hate speech and misinformation, and probably more to the point, they intend to force recalcitrant mods to allow it regardless of their own views on the matter.

And the head mod/creator/whatever they are of unpopular opinion took exception to that and locked the community in protest.

[-] JonsJava@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

I'm another mod of the community. Admiral didn't let me know they were doing this.

I still 100% support their actions regardless.

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I just want to highlight the term "Vichy Twitter" because I really like that. Thank you.

[-] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

Vichy Twitter is a good one, I'm gonna write that down.

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[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 22 points 1 month ago

Tankie mods on world are criticized for being too tankie in moderation.

Admins try to address this by forcing mods to argue instead of immediately ban if something is posted against their beliefs.

A non-tankie mod thinks it is bullshit that they have to engage in every online argument in good faith and takes their subs (I know this isn't the official term but it communicates the idea) dark in protest.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 1 month ago

i still use sub. i dont think ill ever stop. like how podcasts are still called podcasts and they dont even make ipods anymore.

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[-] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

You have to allow a little raw chicken in the mayo now.

So now people are to be allowed to sealion and troll and JAQ off in your community, so long as they do it respectfully.

Or else.

Imagine running, say, a community for vulnerable trans kids, and being forced to allow a constant influx of 'helpful suggestions', just so long as they're phrased in pretty language.

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[-] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

https://lemmy.world/post/24135976

So they're trying cut back on echo chambers and power tripping mods. I like this, but I wonder how this going to play out.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We’re going to allow some “flat earth” comments. We’re going to force some moderators to accept some “flat earth” comments

You.. like this? Glad I'm not a mod, this is how places like Reddit became what they are today. Opinions should be allowed, but admins should be able to moderate blatant falsehoods.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Reddit is a living emblem of the problem this is trying to solve so I have no idea what you mean.

Mods can’t be trusted to enforce the truth. It’s far too complicated and they invariably end up enforcing their own distorted view of the world instead.

[-] Pandantic@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Here’s the thing - who cares if someone wants to post about flat earth theories? If people like it, it will be upvoted, and if they don’t, it will be downvoted. Why remove it? That’s the point - let the users decide, not the mods. Power to the people, the mods just step in when they post 10 times in an hour about flat earth theories.

Unfortunately, you’ll have to switch to subscriptions when you sort by new.

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[-] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Policy sentiments aside, wow that post is so up it's own ass. There was definitely a more concise way to communicate the change.

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[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 9 points 1 month ago

Mods are sad that this isn't reddit where their communities are their own little fiefdom

[-] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

As I understand, It was a move intended to inspire discussion rather than having overreaching moderators knee-jerk remove posts/comments. It just wasn’t worded properly.

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[-] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Seems like they locked the community in protest of recent .world TOS changes. Although I think a much better protest would be to simply refuse to enforce the changes they felt are unsatisfactory.

[-] asudox@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

...or just migrate the community to another instance? Like why are we in the fediverse? Have people forgotten that if you don't like a instance, you can just move to another one?

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 month ago

Migration as a first choice is rash.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

It's really not. The whole purpose of federation is that you can just go to whatever instance you like best.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 month ago

Migration as a sub is rash since it involves moving a community of people.

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[-] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

From the announcement in question:

Some communities will receive an immediate notice with a link to this new policy. The most egregious communities will comply, or their moderators will be removed from those communities.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 1 month ago

Nothing like a good power trip from the admins. Even if mods are power tripping people can make a new community. This was a bad response by admins, they bowed to only the most vocal minority. Vast majority of people have been fine with the moderation on .world. only classy thing to do is to take it back and play it off like it was a trial run that didn't work out

[-] Lumisal@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Well, time to make my alt community account my primary one. See y'all on the other side!

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I make them perna ban me first. Fuck them.

But yeah. Gtfo, and be carful, if the world is flat that means it has an edge.

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