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Guardian investigation finds 98% of Europeans breathing highly damaging polluted air linked to 400,000 deaths a year

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[-] FlyLikeAMouse@feddit.uk 91 points 2 years ago

I predict that nothing will change, we will carry on breathing polluted air, the situation will get worse but still, nothing will change.

[-] Zacryon@feddit.de 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Germans would say "Tja", shrug and then drive with their unnecessarily big car to the bakery which is around the corner to buy some Mettwurstbrötchen. Sitting then with their friends at a Stammtisch over a beer and talk angrily about how people need to change something before they fall into bed and forget about it.

[-] First@programming.dev 15 points 2 years ago

Sound more like the U.S. than Germany - Germany has the €49/month public transport ticket, relatively good public transport offerings and a green party that has the best election results of the western industrial countries. Of course shutting down nuclear power plants didn't do them any favours regarding pollution.

[-] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Better window dressing. Still not doing enough.

[-] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago

49? Damn, it's like €90 in Stockholm.

[-] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago
[-] elouboub@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

We will vote for the same people, keep buying iPhones, and get distracted by stupid shit. As is customary.

[-] Zacryon@feddit.de 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[-] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

#mega corporations

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 28 points 2 years ago

[...] Our food is unfit to eat, our air is unfit to breathe...

Luckily the world isn't going crazy or we live in a depression or the Russians are doing something or we don't go out anymore and the world is getting smaller.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwMVMbmQBug

[-] Decoy321@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Hot damn, that's a movie I haven't seen in a while. It started off crazy and went even more nuts. It's like Fox News used it as a training manual. Soon we'll probably get a Mao Tse Tung Hour, too.

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[-] marsokod@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Overlay it with a map of electricity emissions and it will fit nicely with a few small exceptions (like any small country neighbouring Poland, they will have bad air regardless of their own production).

https://app.electricitymaps.com/map

[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago

So, I live in Western Washington and was wondering if this is actually one place where the USA wins over Europe and... I'm currently breathing 4.5 micrograms of PM2.5. So equal to living in Denmark. Success!

Let's spot-check... wait... https://www.iqair.com/us/uk/england/london/putney-weimar-street London is only at 9 micrograms. I guess that's still double mine. Let's be fair and pick the worst part in Seattle: https://www.iqair.com/us/usa/washington/seattle/overlook-at-magnolia still 5.8 micrograms. Let's try one more time in Germany, It seems like any place in Germany will be above a 10. https://www.iqair.com/us/germany/nordrhein-westfalen/koln/rodenkirchen it's 5.

So maybe this is a time when Western Washington is on par with Europe? Is IQAir not a great source?

[-] appel@whiskers.bim.boats 4 points 2 years ago

Probably due to the relative density of emitters

I live in the middle of nowhere in the Southeast, and apparently my area has a score of 12.

[-] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

That's just the whole world

[-] Amilo159@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Question is, how much do you trust the Guardian to do a proper research.

They claim no area of Sweden has twice the recommended value, but there are clearly orange/red areas near the very south near Helsingborg.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 years ago

screenshot

Are you thinking of Copenhagen?

[-] Amilo159@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I was thinking of Malmø with i said Helsingborg, which is further north ofc. Copenhagen is big (by Nordic standards), cramped and old. No wonder it has worse air.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

All of Skåne is still below 10 (less than double the recommended maximum)

[-] ftothe3@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Why is it so bad in Northern Italy?

[-] ours@lemmy.film 8 points 2 years ago

That's where all the Italian industry is at.

[-] ftothe3@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

I was wondering if the alps also contribute by trapping the smog there

[-] P1r4nha@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

Probably a bit. It's the Po valley after all. But it's mostly the density of industry.

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