Trump says U.S. doesn't need Canada's oil, gas, vehicle or lumber imports (www.cbc.ca)

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Trump says the United States does not need oil, gas, vehicles, or lumber imports from his allies to the north.

Trump made the comments Thursday, in his first speech to world leaders since returning to the White House for his second term.

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[-] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 14 points 6 days ago

Then I guess Canada can just switch lumber production and construction standards over to metric now.

[-] lightrush@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 days ago

Shortly after, tradespeople across Canada burst in flames.

[-] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

Every country that transitioned had some difficulty l, and it is a good idea for a metric country to use metric in construction ... but it would make for good political ammunition.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

A 2x4 stopped being a 2x4 so long ago, and keeps becoming less, we might as well measure them in metric now

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

There's a joke to be made here that the Amish still use actual 2x4's, but it's a bit dated.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

2x4 has always been the nominal, unplaned dimension since forever.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

You are making me show my age now. When I renovated homes 30+ years ago the studs were sawn 2x4 with sharp corners. The replacement stuff was like 1.75-1.875 x 3.75 the new ones at the stores now are like 1.5 x 3.5.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Yah, I just moved an old farmhouse (1962) to another quarter section on the farm, and all the old structure was that square planed stuff, but it was finished 1.5x3.5. I think that's what came out of the one-off mills around a lot of these places at the time. The smoothplaned stuff was kept in the city.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

Yeah looks like pre 60s going back to the 1920s it was sawn to 2x4 inches. There are some standards online per time range. Also found most stuff we worked on pre 50s was hardwood. Trying to cut old studs in some places was a nightmare for our blades. That or it became petrified LOL.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Fir. That old douglas fir dries hard as nails. Old barns are all nominal thickness and if you buy boards for livestock pens, they'll all be roughcut full dimension still.

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 days ago

Metric is more precise.

Fight me.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

Part of my work is with manufacturers and dimensional drawing info. Inches can be precise but some North American industries insist on fractional rounding on drawings (as a tolerance signifier). Then they chase QA stuff on why the assembly doesn't go together per the print. It frustrates me...guys just used decimals!

[-] anachronist@midwest.social 10 points 5 days ago

That's the thing, Canada is mostly a raw materials exporter and the main importer is US industry.

It'd basically be like when China tried to "Wolf-warrior" Australia and ended up with coal, pork and grain shortages.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago

I'd love to watch the US handle skyrocketing prices because they got rid of all the immigrants, then they got rid of Canadian lumber and oil, causing those prices to skyrocket as well.

Add to that the costs of the yet again border wall, costs of the immigration ~~death camps~~ vacation parks with all the guards, legal shit and transportation, the tax cuts for the wealthy and the extra taxes for people who already can't make it to the end of the month.

So far, el cheeto is doing GREAT!

[-] lightrush@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

Something occurred to me while watching some news yesterday. It won't take ICE raids removing people from farms for the effect to materialize. The fear from raids will cause people to stop showing up for work at the farms before that. That's why I think we'll see the effects on food prices quicker.

[-] Mettled@reddthat.com 8 points 6 days ago

Trump can ban Canadian imports to prove that he's not bluffing

[-] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago

Maple. Syrup.

[-] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 60 points 1 week ago

"We're going to be demanding respect from other nations," Trump said.

Respect needs to be mutual. He sounds like the typical asshole uncle that always acts like they're owed respect be have never showed any in return.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 1 week ago

Reminds me of this image:

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 17 points 1 week ago

This how the aholes in my company treated our vendors. Vendors said go suck it, leading to increasing lead times to "yeah I dk when you'll get stuff" for a year. The fact it happened 2x in a few year is mine boggling.

[-] psvrh@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago

Ah, did you work for a Volkswagen or General Motors supplier in the late 1990s and early 2000s?

Because I recall that exact situation, and the resulting crash of quality.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 5 days ago

Rofl I won't say much but let's say I'm very certain they were rehired somewhere I know and then fired for the same behavior. Lessons here is don't hire anyone from auto industry. They are just bullies.

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[-] lightrush@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I suppose Albertans in oil and gas should call Danielle and tell her to stop the clown tricks and join Team Canada now.

[+] Mettled@reddthat.com -6 points 6 days ago

"Team Canada" is bogus crap. Interprovincial trade barriers mean the cult mantra of "Team Canada is a distraction tactic from blaming the Liberal party for any tariffs and loss of jobs in Canada.

[-] Someone@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

I can't imagine 12 of 13 premiers would agree on taking some of the heat off of any federal party, especially one that's all but leaderless.

[-] Mettled@reddthat.com 0 points 6 days ago

Is the federal party that you are saying is leaderless? Why do you say 12 out of 13? Who are you not counting, and why?

[-] Someone@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

I'm sure you must know the answers already but clearly I'm replying to your comment and referring to the Liberals, the party whose leader has announced his resignation. And once again, it's pretty clear Danielle Smith is the odd one out. She refused to sign off on the first ministers letter a couple weeks ago and every single other premier has been specifically quoted as supporting a team Canada approach, even Scott Moe.

[-] Mettled@reddthat.com -5 points 5 days ago

Danielle Smith's priority is making sure Canadians keep their jobs. Tariffs on Canadian imports results in layoffs of Canadians so they are out of work, out of a job.

[-] Someone@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago

I'm sure it is, but her approach is like when younger kids are playing sports (hockey, soccer, lacrosse) and there's that one kid that refuses to play their position and just ends up chasing the ball. Sure, they're all aiming for the same net, but that one kid can undermine the rest of the team's strategy. At best the rogue kid leaves an opposing player wide open, at worst they steal the ball from their own teammate and shank it into the stands.

[-] Mettled@reddthat.com -3 points 4 days ago

You are wrong, it's the exact oposite. Smith's priority is trying to work with the other side to build an agreement, and everybidy else is being a spaz and complaining "We want it our way or we're not playing! Trump won't do what we told him, he started ths fight!"

If Truseau won't secure the border to block people crossing illegally in Anerica, Trump has a right to wreck Canada, damage Canadian businesses, and have thousands of people in Canada lose their jobs and be unemployed.

Trump never said Canadian shouldn't accet immigrants, he's only demanding that Canada block the border to America outside of a USCBP

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

trying to work with the other side to build an agreement, and everybidy else is being a spaz and complaining

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/2025/01/canada-continues-to-strengthen-border-security-and-immigration-integrity.html

https://news.ontario.ca/en/release/1005537/ontario-launches-operation-deterrence-to-strengthen-security-along-ontario-us-border

Securing the border helps both countries, I don't see any Canadian leader pushing against that. We've pointed out the issue for years

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/fighting-gun-crime-canada-has-an-american-problem-2022-07-27/

Exclusive data obtained by Reuters for Ontario, Canada's most populous province, shows that when handguns involved in crimes were traced in 2021, they were overwhelmingly - 85% of the time - found to have come from the United States.

I'm hoping that the US makes similar investments on their side of the border.

[-] Godort@lemm.ee 33 points 1 week ago

That would require them to have the ability to perceive consequences in the future.

These are the type of people that get a notoriously unstable job making 6 figures on a high school education and immediately lease a brand new $80K truck and start a coke habit because they can currently afford it.

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[-] kbal@fedia.io 35 points 1 week ago

Make America Great Depression Again

[-] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 week ago

MAGDA!

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 28 points 1 week ago

"Felon who has had no need or interest in the price of oil, gas, vehicles or lumber makes statements about the necessity of oil, gas, vehicles, and lumber"

Fixed the headline

[-] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 26 points 1 week ago

Arguably accurate on the oil front as the US net exports, but the housing crisis is gonna get real bad after the price of lumber triples, ending all construction...

[-] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

Esp considering they need to rebuild a good chunk of LA. Bad time to make anything more expensive for anyone.

[-] lightrush@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago

Don't they have to rework their refineries in order to replace Canadian oil? Instead the refineries currently working with Canadian oil are specifically built to process dillbit, due to having been built to use Venezuelan dillbit originally.

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[-] Zier@fedia.io 20 points 1 week ago

But we do need the Food that Canada grows and exports to the US. So fuck you trump you idiot. He bankrupted a CASINO!!!

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

He's probably right wrt the USA needing our exports, as much as it sucks for us.

Maybe now we'll actually diversify our industries and seek out new buyers.
Probably not though, since PP is gonna be in charge and that man baby only wants to double down on selling oil to the USA, and thats the entire extent of his economic plan. And by that I mean he is gonna throw money at oil companies and hope it magically turns into more sales to the USA.
What's the opposite of diversify?