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[-] NeryK@sh.itjust.works 115 points 2 days ago

The people laid off in 2023 (no less than 16% of the company's headcount) might have opinions upon hearing that.

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 days ago

They sacked them to make the shareholders more money, that's how it works. And if the shareholders profits are looking a little skint they'll just sack people until the margins look right.

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

The layoffs will continue until line go up

[-] boaratio@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago

God tim sucks so bad, but I want to see epic defeat Google and Apple.

[-] Splitdipless@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

"The enemy of my enemy could also be my enemy... but I'll deal with them later."

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago

I would make a deal with any demon to see Google and Apple utterly defeated and broken up.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately they seem to be completely unsuccessful, outside of causing Google and Apple a bit of grief. Especially with the new administration.

[-] Linktank@lemmy.today 30 points 2 days ago

Such a smug looking asshole.

[-] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

They always are.

[-] alessandro@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 days ago

Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft are fine tho.

[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 43 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Tim is taking a moral stand ... and I know he gets a lot of crap, but he's not wrong to fight Apple and Google about mobile app stores.

Apple and Google created entire operating systems where the flow of almost all transactions flows through them.

Some people don't even have computers anymore, the just use these mobile platforms.

It's hugely anticompetitive (especially in the Apple case where you can't even install -- without heroics -- non-Apple approved apps).


I disagree with Tim on Linux.

I also disagree with his approach to taking on Steam dominance ... mostly because of the Linux bit but also because I don't like exclusivity deals. That said, people may eventually appreciate what Tim has done here should Steam turn sour. It is kind of scary that so much depends on the good will of the aging Gabe.

I don't disagree with Tim RE Apple and Google's app stores.

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago

And then there's Google's moves tightening things for people who sideload or use custom ROMs.

[-] alessandro@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

I don't disagree with Tim regarding Google or Apple; but I am not throwing those three names randomly. Xbox, Switch and Playstation are console that allowed crossplay for Fortnite (PUBG had to wait behind Fornite for Sony and Microsoft allow crossplay later: Sweeney surely don't forget friends that helped beat the competition) before anybody else. While Apple argued that their business model is similar to console, he choose to defend Sony,Microsoft and Nintendo: try ask him to lower the 30% for those three... and you'll see what he'll say to you.

As for Stram... well, I am a big supporter for Itch and (partially, due to their murky position towards Linux: "all DRM free but your Windows license" it seems); I think Steam need competition (such as PC hardware like SteamDeck where the OEM can customize freely without having to obey Microsoft); in fact, Epic Game Store is rowing in the opposite direction! Many indie are wondering why they should support Itch and GoG "for free" while Epic pay them for exclusivity!

Well, I think that, for developers, Itch and GoG are their "contract leverage" to push Valve around; and the role Epic is taking is:

  1. indie developers are less motivated to support Itch.io
  2. exacerbated tone Tim is against Linux.. it's pushing Linux developers towards Steam
[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I get Tim's reasoning though with Xbox, Switch, and PlayStation. As it stands, these are not general purposes operating systems. You don't "install apps" on them, you play games, maybe stream a show, and maybe use a web browser (but realistically few people are doing the latter two with these devices). They're also typically much more subsidized because Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft can recoup a lot of the hardware cost in game sales (where as Apple and Google increasingly make the most money off of the hardware sales).

Compare that to the Apple and Google case; like imagine if Microsoft and Apple had done this with PCs in the 90s. The world would look significantly different because you couldn't install various things on Macs. Like as an example, Firefox and Chrome arguably wouldn't exist (or would be a pain to install), because your system would ship with Safari and Internet Explorer (and the other browsers would just "not be allowed").

This is hugely anti-competitive in a way that's far more offensive than Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft's behavior on their gaming consoles. These are not general purposes devices (maybe they should be, but they're not). Basically nobody is doing their taxes on a Switch or PlayStation ... but plenty of people use iOS/Android devices as their only computers (they do their taxes there, pay their bills online via these devices, etc).

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 28 points 2 days ago

Tim only complains about monopolies when they hurt his bottom line. If he actually cared about monopolies he wouldn't be so hostile to Linux users.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft are fine tho.

Sony: Uses unreal Engine in games like Days Gone.

Nintendo: Uses Unreal Engine in games like Yoshi's Crafted World.

Microsoft: Uses Unreal Engine in games like Gears of War and even killed the whole Halo engine to switch over to UE.

So OF COURSE those are the good guys.

[-] alessandro@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

All true, but too many people tend to forget that the very first game in the world of console generation to have online cross play was Fortnite for Sony's Playstation and Microsoft's Xbox.

Also, Sony and Microsoft held back PUBG crossplay in the very momentum in which battle royale was exploding (ignited by PUBG itself)

[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

His actions are his personal battle not the best value for shareholders, how does he get away with not being sacked for failing to uphold his fiduciary duty?

He has no moral high ground to stand on either, his whole company is based off of exploiting children.

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

Because so far he's been mostly winning, hasn't he?

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

When we gonna get a sequel to Dare to Dream, Timberley?

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