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[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 66 points 2 months ago

The first books the Nazis burned were scientific research notes about trans people.

[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The first books the Nazis burned were scientific research notes about trans people

Impressive that it is actually true, I thought it is an exaggeration. From Wikipedia:

On 30 January 1933, Adolf Hitler, the leader of the Nazi Party, came to power

On 6 May 1933, a group of students ... the students proceeded to shout "Brenne Hirschfeld!" ("Burn Hirschfeld!") while ransacking and vandalizing the Institute, tearing pictures from the walls, pouring inkwells onto carpets, and destroying exhibitions while the band played outside.

src: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_people_in_Nazi_Germany

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 months ago

Yeah, when they teach about book burnings they never mention that fact. It also serves as a reminder that trans people are not just a modern phenomenon. The Nazis' reasons for targeting trans people then are the same as right-wingers today, they look for a small, marginalized group and seize on existing prejudice to sow division and divide and conquer. The Nazis claimed trans people were a Jewish plot to weaken and destroy the Ayran race, and you can still see echos of that in some right-wing rhetoric today.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

They then executed everyone with a brain. Drs, teachers, engineers, scientists, researchers, etc

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[-] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

Since when does the CDC have the authority to do this in the first place? If the CDC can't effectively police actions during a global pandemic they sure as shit shouldn't have to authority to control the terminology used in medical research.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 2 months ago

Maybe research that used CDC funds?

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[-] Tin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 2 months ago

“forbidden terms”

...must be that "free speech" I keep hearing about. This is obviously a first amendment issue, right?

Right?

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

to be fair you've been hearing about it from this troglodyte:

[-] Daughter3546@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I don’t see the difference between the two pictures. Is the left one supposed to be black and white? And the right being in colour?

[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

One on the right seems pretty black and white too.

[-] lembas@lemm.ee 33 points 2 months ago

I'm so fucking scared. They've inhibited our movement by fucking with passports, they've defined us as dishonest and dishonorable in the EO kick us out of the military, they've codified the notion that our gender identity constitutes sexual deviance and poses a threat to children, they've attacked proven life-saving care, with a focus on children and an impact on adults.

and now they're trying to book-burn us out of existence.

this is systematic dehumanization, the track record of which is grim.

There's just straight up not enough of us to do this on our own.

If people don't start standing up for us, we're fucked.

[-] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Wait, how did they mess with passports?

[-] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

They’re refusing to issue passports to people who have had their gender marker legally changed, and some bigoted employees have been illegally confiscating documents (like birth certificates and social security cards) from those who try anyways.

So if your drivers license gender marker doesn’t match your birth certificate, they’ll refuse to issue the passport, and there’s a non-zero chance that the person behind the desk will steal both when you try to apply. So now you don’t have a passport and you need to go through the arduous process of getting all new ID paperwork just to prove who you are.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

There was a story about how they wouldn't renew some transgender persons passport the other day.

[-] fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 months ago

They confiscated it, wouldn't give it back and were threatening to arrest her. There are also reports of trans people that were renewing their passports by mail and told they wouldn't be getting them back.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Ugh.

You just know if it was someone sadly following the new requirements, it would have been a very apologetic taking of it and that would be the end, even if traumatic.

When they threaten to arrest them, they're in on it.

[-] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

They are stealing the documents of trans people who go to get new documents including passports, leaving them without identifying paperwork (and identified by the authorities by the paperwork they lost) in a time where that is very convenient for the people in power, and threatening them with arrest if they ask for them back. In addition to what has been said already

[-] triptrapper@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

From my sister about my 17y.o. trans niece: "Unfortunately, [niece] had a children's passport (expired now), so she's in the group who would not be able to get a passport anymore because her birth certificate and social security don't currently match each other and don't match her passport records."

[-] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

non-binary people had been getting “X“ instead of M or F on their passport. The Trump administration will no longer allow those passports to be issued

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[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

All people need is a focus for resistance, a group or a leader to join. Most people are disgusted by this, and despite the election result I still believe most people would rather see trans people happy than suffering. And as the visibility of trans people increases, more and more cis people have been discovering that they know and care about trans people in their own lives. That's why the hateful fringe feels it's so urgent to shut trans rights down. They know they have to push people back into fear and silence before transphobia becomes uncommon. And they know they have to silence people talking about these matters to make organized resistance possible. But the quiet is largely people not knowing how to connect and resist, not a lack of desire to resist. It's time for organized resistance and the first movement that gets going will find many supporters.

We also need some organization around getting LGBTQ+ refugees out of the USA and into other countries. The restrictions on passports are very ominous.

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[-] mostNONheinous@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Look at all this cancel culture….

[-] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

An attack on science is an attack on us all. They are trying to erase science they dont agree with. This is Christian fascism - welcome to giliad.

Anyone in the US please organise - join an anti religious influence group, protest, disobey. You must fight back.

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[-] Squorlple@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago
[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 months ago

Literally speedrunning the Nazi handbook.

[-] Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 months ago
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[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago
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[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

So much money wasted modifying all these documents.

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[-] Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 months ago

This is... This is bad! Wow.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago
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[-] Shortstack@reddthat.com 8 points 2 months ago

The CDC has instructed its scientists to retract or pause the publication of any research manuscript being considered by any medical or scientific journal, not merely its own internal periodicals

The scope is thankfully limited only to CDC scientists.

Not that this makes it good news by any stretch.

This is going to push research money squarely under the thumb of corporate control, which is of course the aim here. Privatize everything.

I do know scientists hate having their work paywalled or censored so I’d expect sci-hub to get a lot more popular real quick, but many will definitely self censor their official publications to keep their jobs til orange hitler shoots himself in a bunker somewhere.

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[-] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago

Back up everything. Don't let it be memory-holed! Holy crap.

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[-] commander@lemmings.world 6 points 2 months ago

Crazy how polticized science is.

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[-] Stormdancer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

What the actual fuck?! It's like living in a fever-driven nightmare. We can only hope there are backups of the un-purged documents.

[-] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Oh look...

The US is embedding a totalitarian theonomic government. A new, (soon to be) militarized, hierarchy regime of religious fanaticism and newly created social classes, in which DEI is being brutally subjugated.

I swear I've seen this show before...

[-] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Well now how will I explain that a pregnant dominant species member is not a Martian

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