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[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 hours ago

I don't usually like Meta, but here they used that data to produce open weights models available to the public. That sort of thing is what piracy is for so I support it.

[-] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Meta did not immediately respond to Ars' request for comment and has maintained throughout the litigation that AI training on LibGen was "fair use."

When I upload a single half century old photo to Wikipedia, I have to fill out a relatively complicated form proving that it meets "fair use" standards. Internet Archive got legally fucked for allowing people to read their book scans without restriction for a while. And now these absolute cunts have the gall to defer to "fair use"! I really wonder if the same authors and publishing houses who sued IA will do anything about this.

[-] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 12 points 4 hours ago

See, Meta is rich and US laws don't seem to apply to American oligarchs.

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 24 points 7 hours ago

And they probably never reseeded it afterwards either, the inconsiderate prats

[-] a1studmuffin@aussie.zone 35 points 9 hours ago

This doesn’t mean that Meta denies using shadow libraries, its argument is that using such data to train its LLM models constitutes fair use under U.S. copyright law.

Oh wow, I'm very much looking forward to this argument... "We believe pirating the copyrighted commercial works of others en masse to develop our own commercial product constitutes fair use... China bad!"

[-] nesc@lemmy.cafe 38 points 10 hours ago

Of course they didn't seed. Fucking leeches.

[-] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

They were leeches without the torrenting.

[-] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 83 points 12 hours ago

Remember when Aaron Swartz tried to do something similar and received multiple life sentences

[-] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 12 hours ago

And was intimidated so bad by the legal system he killed himself.

[-] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 104 points 13 hours ago
[-] AnEilifintChorcra@sopuli.xyz 52 points 13 hours ago

“Plaintiffs do not plead a single instance in which any part of any book was, in fact, downloaded by a third party from Meta via torrent, much less that Plaintiffs’ books were somehow distributed by Meta,” the company writes.

Another reason to hate Meta, now they're scummy leechers even though they could afford the bandwidth to seed back

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 22 points 12 hours ago

Capitalists aren't in the business of sharing.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 3 hours ago

Parasite's entire MO is to never give back.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 4 points 9 hours ago

Downloading and seeding are very legally different.

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 hours ago

That's a lot of Far Side books.

[-] albert180@discuss.tchncs.de 55 points 13 hours ago

If they don't respect copyright I don't respect it either

[-] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 12 hours ago

We just need to wait until copyright regulations get killed... Right?

[-] Bezier@suppo.fi 8 points 12 hours ago

Right?

Right...?

Surely they would...

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 9 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Copyright lobby begs to differ. 😂

[-] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 8 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

My Mullvad account begs to differ. And it makes my banker happy!

[-] azron@lemmy.ml 31 points 13 hours ago

And they should pay for every book they stole :)

[-] zaknenou@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 12 hours ago
this post was submitted on 06 Feb 2025
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