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[-] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 53 points 1 week ago

50% of Democrats are also in favor of that, lol. Liberals truly love licking fascist buttholes. pathetic

[-] someone@hexbear.net 46 points 1 week ago

I've had a lot of fun lately with Democrat supporters on other forums by calling them "Beta Republicans".

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago
[-] someone@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago
[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

You're too eagar. Now I'm scared to do it

[-] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

Beta move tbh pathetic

[-] huf@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

are libertarians the sigma republicans then?

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

Mandem went from calling em weird and playing the war drum ol we're the resistance to... " n.... Not so mean musk sama ![panting](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/52401636-091b-45bf-9206-79dd3310664a.png " I've seen more online vitriol towards brown people than this dude

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 41 points 1 week ago

I never trust these polls. These are privately run news companies, why wouldn't they want people to think it's normal to approve of a CEO having too much power?

[-] mrfugu@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago

all national polling is so shot. Hardly anyone I know has even bothered to answer their phone for election polling (or at all given the intense volume of spam callers presently). Who tf is answering a CBS about the muskrat brigade??? They’re probably just calling the same 20 people who are glued to cable news and pushing a percent or two around to make the numbers look better.

Yeah honestly at this point I think phone polling is less than worthless. By using that method you are inherently selecting for a non-representative sample of the population.

It’s not a good method for finding the opinions of “the average American” because “the average American” doesn’t answer unknown calls.

Even if it's no rigged, national polling is increasingly inaccurate. It's all done by phones and anyone under 45 just lets anonymous numbers go to voicemail now. The only people getting polled are lonely grannies who will gladly talk the ear off of any human who will listen.

[-] ghosts@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

Sorry, but it's just not true that national polling is all done by phones. The vast majority of national polling in recent years is done online. PEW Research article

Hm, fair, still probably grannies tho

[-] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

That's even worse, not only are you losing all the grannies who whatever there faults are probably giving their actual (racist) opinions on things which is better than people getting payed $1 for every 100 surveys they complete picking random answers or roboforming

regardless all polling is pretty much useless and can be tailored to give whatever result those running it wanted

[-] ghosts@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

Oh c'mon, that is blatantly reactionary. It's not worse just because it's new and you're unfamiliar with it.

The benefits of online opt-in panels are that they're far cheaper, and that participation rates are much higher.

people getting payed $1 for every 100 surveys they complete picking random answers or roboforming

$1/survey is a standard rate for many reputable polls. Online opt-in panels often include dozens of weed-out questions and cross-checking of your answers against your previous survey results to mitigate those issues.

regardless all polling is pretty much useless and can be tailored to give whatever result those running it wanted

Nihilism is so in right now. But seriously, statistical surveys can be peer-reviewed and graded on past performances. I'm not saying it's perfect, obviously, but you're throwing the baby out with the bath water here.

[-] nothx@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago

Most Americans thought highly of musk up until his nazi salute. Even then most of them refuse to acknowledge that’s what it was. Liberals and Conservatives alike are eager to ignore the blatant fascism as long as they can still watch the Super Bowl commercials in peace.

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago

doubt

The average Americans thoughts on Elon before the Nazi salute was “You’ll be having a great day, the sun is shining, birds are chirping, and then you see a Cyber Truck coming to piss you off.”

I think we gotta remember we're in an online bubble here. "Normies", for lack of a better term, don't really experience the same cycles of cringe and based as online weirdos like us do. There's people out there who still like Rick and Morty and Big Bang Theory, there's people who don't have any idea what Elon posts on Twitter, they just know him as based rocketship man.

[-] nothx@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

Exactly this. Your average American and even average internet user can only ingests the most basic media and information necessary to keep the office small talk going. They are not invested in the nuances of any of the really pressing topics we all punish ourselves with.

I know so many people who's life cycle is just work-binge watch some show I've never heard of even though it's in its 13th season now apparently-sleep-maybe get drunk and watch sports, and that's it.

We give people shit for watching fucking "BreadTube" but the worst of that shit is still probably more intellectual stimulating than the 18th season of Doctor Sexy-Pants MD or Real Nanny's of Tallahassee.

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

I’m not talking about people online. I’m talking about my personal trainer mom and finance worker dad, my wife’s coworkers, customers, that range of people.

If a cybertruck parks outside of a business the people inside point and laugh. This is not an online bubble thing, unless you count every American who had a TikTok account as an online bubble, but that’s half of Americans.

[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago

Conservatives basically veer into monarchism without even thinking

[-] btfod@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago

Not thinking is kinda their whole thing to be fair

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

Monarchism is just authentical conservatism.

[-] ryepunk@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think the problem is a vast majority of the American people still believe that old Reagan line "the worst thing you can hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help" or whatever that geriatric ghoul said.

The majority of people hold a propaganda fueled belief that the government is wasteful and ineffective and inefficient at doing things and so when they hear someone is going to find ways to fix that they mistakenly believe that it is coming from place of honesty and not the bald faced lie it actually is. They (Elon Musk and his sickos) just want to gut government to do whatever they want without any hindrance. If they have to ruin the lives of 200 million in the bottom 75%, well that's a price they'll happily pay.

[-] DinosaurThussy@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago

American sentiment is extremely malleable right up until the moment people start getting irrevocably fucked over en masse. If Elon fucks up everyone’s tax returns, these numbers will plummet and everyone will be confused as to why the thing they supported fucked them over.

[-] RoabeArt@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

But the propaganda machine (run by the same people who are aligned with Trump and Elon) will put the blame for shit inevitably going wrong on trans people/black people/Muslims/Jews/immigrants/socialists/antifa/whomever the right wants their voters to be scared of.

Americans in general are too cucked to doubt the people they worship.

[-] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

His has as much of a legitimate claim to being in us government as most people in there. That is none, same as any random senator. He should get the wall for moral reasons, but as the entire system is known to be bs there is no logical reason to deny him this.

[-] Sulv@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

He’s just such a loud Nazi idiot. Richest man in the world could just pull all the strings quietly behind the scenes but instead he’s seig heiling on live TV.

[-] Biggay@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

What fun is it to rule the world if you cant stamp your name everywhere? think of the marketing opportunities.

[-] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

I do appreciate the honesty

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

At least nominally a random senator won an election. Obviously bourgeois elections are a scam but Elon didn’t even do that.

[-] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I am equally unimpressed. They both managed to gather the favor of capital. Same difference really

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

All of them wall

[-] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago

This is so fucking funny dude, so many humans are so easily manipulated. They really will just put their full trust into whatever the fuck some person they like says.

[-] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

ACKTSCZSCHTCHYUALLY, what you're seeing in the picture is a poll of only a few thousand people. That means that 334,983,892 people in the country didn't vote on this poll and thus it holds no significance. We can't possibly know how the rest of the populace would have voted! :i-am-very-smart:

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

not even half of democrats could agree that musk shouldnt be allowed anywhere near yall government, controlled opposition ahh country

[-] cricbuzz@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

burger brain fucks

the latest citations-needed breaks this down nicely for those interested. The media framing of Elon running amok has been to assume he and his org are "good faith actors, trying to find inefficiencies" rather than what it really is: a right-wing white nationalist takeover and purging of nearly every institution in the govt

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

it hasn't been very long, i think most of them will change their minds in a year.

[-] EchoSpire@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

Well, according to my made up facts 100% of corporate sponsored polls are bullshit. It's too bad 100% of people don't believe that.

[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

It always comes back to ideology ffs

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