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[-] Nougat@fedia.io 243 points 2 months ago

Because screenshots of what someone said on social media aren't journalism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Mexico

Mexico has restrictive laws regarding gun possession. There are only two stores in the entire country, DCAM near the capital, and OTCA, in Apodaca, Nuevo León. It also takes months of paperwork to have a chance at purchasing one legally.

[-] hohoho@lemmy.world 78 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So you’re saying it’s easier to get a gun in Mexico than a RTX 5000 GPU in the US

[-] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 months ago

You really shouldn't be spending your money on either

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

If I was living in the US, I'd definitely stock up on guns and ammo at this point. Not that it'll help, when the fascists come for you, but at least I wouldn't go down without a fight.

[-] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 17 points 2 months ago

This is the one reason I’m happy Biden was in office. It gave everyone four more years to prepare. Marginalized communities were some of the heaviest buyers during that time. Small arms have been used to inflict losses on fascists since fascists became a thing. Disarmed groups are substantially more in danger than armed groups.

[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

How many people have you seen killed by a graphics card

[-] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago

Well, the 5090 power connector is trying to catch people's houses on fire, so it's dumb to buy one.

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Only for like the 4th generation in a row, so it's not like they've had much time to fix this issue

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

You can get a high point 9mm for a little over $100. Shotguns are not much more expensive.

[-] scoutFDT@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago

Are you implying that it's easy to get an RTX 5000 in Mexico??

[-] Murvel@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah, but since the RTX 5000 doesn't even exist, it's no wonder

[-] M137@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

It definitely exists, why comment that and not take 5 seconds to look it up? It's such a common thing and it's just mind-boggling to me, don't say shit if you haven't even tried to verify it.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, but guns are safer, not even a real fire hazard.

[-] YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world 87 points 2 months ago

Wrong. I don't know why Jay Hulme feels the need to lie but there is more than one gun store in Mexico.

A quick look at Wikipedia clearly shows that there are actually two gun stores.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago
[-] ziviz@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 months ago

Even easier and faster; a quick look at google maps presents a list, their locations, hours of operation....

[-] M137@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's 100% more than OP said! Absolutely crazy, how could they do this?

[-] LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works 79 points 2 months ago

Something like 85% of guns used in crimes in Canada are smuggled from the US

[-] Death__BySnuSnu@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Sounds to me like someone should build a barrier of some sort to keep all those undesirables from the south out of their country.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 51 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Too fast, too furious...

https://www.cnn.com/2013/08/27/world/americas/operation-fast-and-furious-fast-facts/index.html

The craziest thing cartels buying guns in America and smuggling them into Mexico isnt that the US government was selling to people they thought were smugglers.

It's that the people at the gun store are doing the same shit people are doing all over the place.

The used gun market is insane, I know a couple people that constantly buy new guns and sell them less than a year later. They don't question why some person is willing to buy $200 over new price for a used gun.

And the way the law is structured, that's in their best interest.

If a random person walks up and asks to buy a gun, you don't have to ask any other questions as a "private seller" and since you can only get in trouble if you know that person can't own a gun, the less questions the better.

The "private sale" loophole makes every other gun law just a slight hassle to get around. But no one wants to actually close it.

Edit:

It also incentives those sales.

No gun store will pay as much as someone who can't buy from a gun store.

So to make sure someone ends up with that can legally have it, the seller loses money.

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 2 months ago

They do get many from straw purchases here, which is already illegal can get you 10+yr in federal prison.

But also they get a fuckton of full auto guns that are illegal here from the mexican military's corrupt members, and other sources like china, somehow they get explosives too including south korean grenades have been found which is wild, and the best is Operation Fast & Furious, where the ATF just directly sold them a bunch of AKs "to track" and then surprise! "lost" them. They get em from multiple sources.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

Maybe per city? I know there's one single gun shop where I live but not for the entire country? Lol

[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago

Are there most likely small illegal shops? Absolutely. But he is correct. There is only one single legal firearms store in mexico city and is run by the military

[-] janNatan@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago

He didn't say Mexico City. He said "Mexico."

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I think there's more than one of anything illegal anywhere here on Earth at any given moment. Of course I mean the legal shops. Lol

[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago

There are two in the whole country. Finding that odd shows a very Americanized view where gun are ubiquitous instead of controlled which is the exact point of this article.

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Not American and I'm still baffled by that. I can think of two in my "small for US standards" city, in a country with less people than Mexico city, although most of their business is for sports and hunting.

Ask for anything slightly large or automatic and they'll laugh all the way to a cell.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Well even in the US it's quite expensive and difficult to get an automatic weapon. But if you meant semiautomatic then yeah they're everywhere.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 27 points 2 months ago

We had to arm the drugs in the War on Drugs to make it a real fight.

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 27 points 2 months ago

Why need more gun store when the biggest gun store in the world is right above you? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 6 points 2 months ago

Damn that gravity causing trickle down egunomy.

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 19 points 2 months ago

Not sure if I'd really use the troubles as a defense against the proliferation of personal ownership of firearms........

Kinda hard to claim you've been "radicalized" by denying other radicalized individuals the ability to fight off a oppressive foreign government with a long history of genocidal tyranny against your entire ethnicity.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

... most of witch regimes were set up and funded (weapons too) by the USA or Russia. Usually they were terrorist groups before forming a formal government. And the problem being that the status quo is usually the most profitable and politically beneficial (gives the mentioned colonisers more direct power over the de fuckto marionette countries).

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Accuracy of this post aside, would anyone be surprised if many of the cartel leaders are on a cia payroll?

I am not alleging that to be any truth, but i would digest that information like a weather report claiming rain when you’re still soaking wet from having been outside.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

You hardly have to speculate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor

Condor was formally created in November 1975, when Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet's spy chief, Manuel Contreras, invited 50 intelligence officers from Chile, Uruguay, Argentina, Paraguay, Bolivia, and Brazil to the Army War Academy in Santiago, Chile. The operation ended with the fall of the Argentine junta in 1983.

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In 1980, Regional Security Officer James Blystone had met with an Argentine Intelligence Source. In the declassified memo, Blystone had asked about the disappearance for two Montoneros that had plans to travel from Mexico to Brazil to meet with other Montoneros. The Argentine Intelligence Source had explained that they had been taken and interrogated, and later contacted their Mexican and Brazilian counterparts for approval to conduct an operation to capture the other Montoneros that were expecting their arrival. Once they were under custody, they had utilized fake documents to check into their hotel to impersonate their presence and not alert any other Montoneros of their capture. They were imprisoned at Campo de Mayo

The Mexican Connection of the Iran Contra Affair

In what newspapers here are calling ''the Mexican connection'' to the Iran-contra affair, the Mexican political establishment and its right-wing opposition are trading charges that each has maintained improper contacts with American organizations supplying aid to anti-Sandinista forces in Nicaragua.

Critics of the opposition National Action Party accused the party of treason after it was disclosed last month that a prominent party member met several times in Washington last year with Carl R. (Spitz) Channell, director of the National Endowment for the Preservation of Liberty.

Mr. Channell recently pleaded guilty to conspiracy to defraud the American Government by raising tax-deductible contributions for a purpose that was not deductible: buying arms for the contras. He was an associate of Lieut. Col. Oliver L. North, who developed the contra arms supply network while working for President Reagan's National Security Council.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9rida_Initiative

Some examples of Mexico's paramilitary abuses at the time included the sexual assault and rape of dozens of female detainees by police in San Salvador Atenco, and the disappearances of dozens of teachers in the state of Oaxaca in 2006, as well as the killings of seven innocent bystanders, including the American journalist Brad Will by off-duty policemen. Almost half of Mexican police officers examined in 2008 failed background and security tests, a figure that rose to nearly 9 of 10 policemen in the border state of Baja California

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Gunwalking (Wide Receiver/F&F) is at least allegedly intended to map firearm traffic for the purpose of orchestrating stings.

I might argue the Republican scandalmongering was about shielding their deep state counterparts from being outed, rather than persecuting CIA linked gun trafficker assets in the ATF.

But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe everybody is just stepping on one another's dicks.

[-] ProtecyaTec@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

At this point in history, yes.

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[-] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Most places, if not all places there's a war, there are American weapons. Remember all the people coming after the American soldiers in Black Hawk Down, well they used American weapons.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

Restrictive gun laws, but live in North America? Just hop on over to the Ugunted Guns of Agundica and get as many as you want!

[-] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 points 2 months ago

The last thing the working classes of the world needs is for the owner class to have a monopoly on violence.

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[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

The international community should probably do what the US did to set the drinking age to 21, but for guns.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Minimum_Drinking_Age_Act

How is that supposed to work? The international community doesn’t pay for US infrastructure.

The USA are a huge market for handguns and keep for example the European companies in business.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

It's by design.
A lot of effort went into it and it's a lot of effort to maintain such systems. You need PR along with movie studios, politicians on local, country, and global levels, lobbyists, para-gov agencies (like police unions), judges, etc. It's a business full of people that do what they can to advance it.

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