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[-] AreaKode@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

Doesn't matter what route you go down; if you try to actually fix traffic, you will always end up inventing busses and trains.

[-] einlander@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Are trains and busses the crabs of automotives?

[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

And biking, as that one is more efficient than buses in moving people.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I dunno. I want to invent blimps

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

If we're going for realistic...

[-] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

People really hate the idea of trains

Our rail system has been so terrible for so long that people are unable to even consider the possibility that it doesn't have to be shit

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 months ago

I love trains, but hate shitty trains. I'll gladly take a 10 hour train ride instead of a 1 hour flight. But when tens are late, cancelled, delayed by priority cargo trains, etc, it makes me hate trains...

[-] pedz@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago

It doesn't make me hate trains, it makes me hate the car and aviation industries for influencing governments and the general public.

In Canada trains suck in general because of all you mentioned, but I'm aware that it's caused by putting all of our money into highways, airports and the aviation industry, rather than putting a single dollar into owning and building more tracks.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

What about a 5 hour blimp ride instead

[-] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago

How about self driving buses?

Trains are really cool, but not ideal for low traffic conditions + areas requiring a lot of route flexibility. We definitely should build a lot more trains/trams than what were building right now, but self driving buses will still have a very large use case.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 3 months ago

No one wants a bus! That's not cool.

However, I've invented a revolutionary "shared mega limo". It's like an Uber, but with 50 seats, and optionally you can ride standing if you're sporty. It's the size of a bus, but definitely not a bus.

[-] egonallanon@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago

The trick is you do both buses and trains. You use the buses to connect communities that don't have large transit requirements between them and then for commuting you use buses to direct people to train stations where they can get the trains to work/ where they need to go en masse. Transportation is a multilevel solution that requires multiple modes to get people where they need to go but you can't just rely on buses as quite frankly they lack the ability move all that many people even across quite short distances.

Also to address the self driving part: autonomous road vehicles that can operate safely and at scale are well in the fucking magic territory of technology. If you want a proven highly autonomous travel technique that works trains have been doing it for decades.

[-] nullPointer@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago

which train will take me to my house?

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

Probably the one running on the line closest to your house.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Imagine a world without the need for a car. There's probably a train station that's in walking distance. Maybe 10-15 minutes. More than that, possibly a quick bus to the corner of your street.

In this world, the grocery store is also a 10-15 minute walk, possibly bear the station. Instead of loading up on $200 of groceries once a week, you buy a few pieces on your way to work and/or back home.

There's a nice public park, a library, and even a promenade somewhere also a short walk away. Various retail shops and service centers of all kinds (electronics, home and goods, hardware, appliances) could literally be your downstairs neighbors.

Even if all of these aren't exactly close to you or your train station, they can be a short bus or train ride away. You walk more, bike more. You have a backpack and side racks for the bike. Your health improves, and you interact more with the people of the area.

Welcome to many cities of the world, even in the US.

[-] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Sure our cities could be much better but you do realize there are communities in America that can't even provide reliable safe drinking water let alone an entire new infrastructure for their small, low income population? Or already overburdened underfunded system so nothing is working efficiently and just adding more to the docket?

Probably gonna get shit for this but I find the fuck cars people to be as narrow sighted and obnoxious as vegans. I love your vision, I really do. But damn I have a hard time not being exasperated every time I read a post.

[-] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 3 months ago

not subsidizing petroleum would probably bring in a few tax dollars

[-] FPSXpert@discuss.online 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Hi vegan here. Okay not really, I'm from the south and we eat the hell out of ground beef pork bbq etc all the time lmao.

Just because a small low income populated city is having financial troubles does not mean that the large and medium sized cities cannot do better with how lackluster they are being. Cincinnati can have some bus and transit improvements despite Appalachia to the east having ghost towns everywhere. Detroit can have a light rail network and commuter buses despite Flint having a water crisis. And Houston should never have cancelled their mass transit plans of MetroNEXT because their new mayor hates the idea of it and picked cabinet members to kill it, even if we are in the midst of an immigration crisis to the south.

[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago
[-] moon@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

The North American mind can't comprehend cities where there's no split between residential/urban areas, and every mode of public transportation goes from your house to anywhere you want. Even the next town or country

[-] Antiproton@programming.dev 0 points 3 months ago

Is it possible the European mind can't comprehend how big North America is?

[-] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 3 months ago

Russia, which is even bigger, has loads of trains.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Self driving trains tho. Not all trains do that

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