Normally I would remove this is off-topic and better fitting in fedilore, but since it technically involves a instance admin taking action, it's close enough. But please follow the posting guidelines next time.
As the so-called conservative movement continues its transformation into fascism, this will escalate the conflict between inclusiveness and ideals of free speech.
Even as someone who is more pro-free speech than most Lemmy users, I’m glad endorsing sieg heils is still beyond the rubicon on Lemmy.
I got banned on lemm.ee conservative community for posting a crypto scam. I mean, yeah it was a scam but it was also the official trump and melania scam coins.
So.... I was the one who removed that post. Just due to it technically promoting a crypto scam, even if a joke.
Community mod banned you though. So hey, if you wanted to be unbanned, consider it granted I guess.
Lol no worries. I gave it a 10% chance of staying up anyway
Regarding the .world community: The mods were not actively tending the community. Reports were piling up and not being resolved. Messages were sent to the mods requesting them to reengage, but nothing changed. So the mods were removed while the .world team looks for possible replacements.
The mods at !conservative@sh.itjust.works also look like they have left Lemmy.
If anyone seriously feels like moderating a conservative community (without burning it to the ground for teh lulz) there are plenty of job openings.
I'd be interested in moderating it to allow a differing option while removing gross misinformation.
With modern conservatives being pro-misinformation, that'd be a tall order.
...that'd be a tall order.
However, seeing "SatansMaggotyCumFart" in conservative modlog does have a Federated republic kinda vibe.
"WhO GeTs To dEcIdE tHe TrUtH!?"
"...I get your point, but the moon most emphatically is not made of cheese regardless of what Sean Hannity insists."
You obviously haven't seen that one documentary with Wallace and Gromit
Tide comes out, tide goes in.
You can't explain that.
Fucking magnets.
You’re a better person than me. It would be nice to have a spot where people are allowed to pierce the right wing internet bubble without bans, but that will probably drive away the actual ~~reactionaries~~ conservatives.
It would mostly be keeping conversations civil while removing LGBT fearmongering I don't see it being that hard.
*record scratch*
I am with you... There is this assumption that all of these people are a certain way but that's very polarized view in its own right...
Great a space that welcoming of that discussion with moderation that doesn't allow threat actors spreading psyop shit.
If we can coexist with tankies why can't others join...
That's gonna be tuff me man...
I try to engage with the right as much as possible but the brain rot has escalated to the point where we are living in two different Americas.
But somebody got to do this hard work.
I'm piqued.
We could make it a community service. "Oh you think you're funny? Is either ban or 4 weeks of modding conservative comms"
That.... Might actually work on some of us....
I was up for the job until that part in parenthesis
Same.
Wasn't even aware we had one. It's possible I blocked it aeons ago.
The problem is you would then become a target for everyone who just wants to be rude to a conservative regardless of whether that's your actual point of view.
The conservative community on Lemmy.World is straight up just trolling, and not entirely just for conservative conversations.
Some people make memes out of Alex Jones, but all that accomplishes is normalizing that kind of behavior and giving people like him free cover behind humor. Dan and Jordan at Knowledge Fight have talked about the harms of turning people like him into seemingly harmless clowns.
Satirizing and making fun of people is one thing, but at some point, you need to recognize when the net effect becomes simply spreading their propaganda for free.
(When I say "you," I mean in the general sense.)
This is what makes Lemmy so great. Reddit won’t remove mods for…reasons. Same three fuckers running like 75% of the damn site.
I don't get it, maybe there's more history of the c/conservative mods power tripping?
Only knowing what I've read in this post, mods doing nothing seems to me to be the opposite of power tripping?
Wintermute_oregon was the main mod. There was some other guy who hasn't posted in over a year I think and a bot account so that left all mod decisions to wmo. This mod constantly would get into fights and ban the other person for winning, he had no patience for democratic viewpoints at all claiming they're the woke mind virus, asking questions could get you banned and the next day he'd comment about how nobody wants a real discussion. He was sensitive and actively wielding power. A true snowflake.
It's ironic the choice that cost him his position is a choice to do nothing, except that it was a very active nothing. He could handle reports faster than instance admins could see them so none of the reports were even seen by anybody but him and nobody complained too loud because Lemmy is liberal enough to leave the community nearly untouched save for a half dozen or so accounts spamming pro-Trump, anti-democrat articles with By Lines saying they were written by Tyler Durden (the narrator's imaginary friend in Fight Club). If you weren't praising Trump, you wouldn't be welcome back.
This was a shit show but now the mod has been taken out of town on a rail.
Thank you for the explanation, makes sense!
Wouldn't it be expected to have pro Trump (or as you say, anti Democrat) articles posted to a community explicitly created for discussion of conservative issues?
Zero hedge is an outlet known for right leaning economic policy, I don't place much trust in their content, but sometimes it's an interesting data point.
I'm not a Trump (or Republican) voter, but in the few times I clicked on a link posted in c/conservative I didn't see any actual conservative or right leaning comments. Just a deluge of down votes and negative commentary attempting to dunk on a seemingly missing conservative adversary.
In fact, and I'm not exaggerating here, I never see any comments right of center in my feed, in any community on Lemmy (I view through the lens of LW).
Maybe I have stuff blocked so I don't see right leaning user's content?
The lemm.ee admins are the real ~~racists~~ powertrippers, though!
-former /c/conservative mods probably.
To be fair, though. Wasn't the Musk "my heart goes out to you" valentine actually a Daily Show joke thing? I can see it easily being appropriated by conservatives... but was that what was actually happening?
One card featured an image of Elon Musk with his arm raised and the words, "My heart goes out to you!"
I really wish they would have went with "I'll worm my way into your heart" or maybe a pun with worm and warm for the last one.
"I'm always goering to be reich there for you."
I heard the mods on the lemm.ee one were dismissing reports to protect the posts and users who were rightfully reported. So they deserve it, and it was probably the best thing that could've been done, second to banning the community outright of course.
The one on Lemmy.world was probably a very similar story, and if I remember right that community was nothing but trolling and occasional bigotry. As are most conservative communities on the Fediverse.
I sure did not see that coming 😉
Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
Posting Guidelines
All posts should follow this basic structure:
- Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
- What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
- Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
- Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
- Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.
Rules
- Post only about bans or other sanctions that you have received from a mod or admin.
- Don’t use private communications to prove your point. We can’t verify them and they can be faked easily.
- Don’t deobfuscate mod names from the modlog with admin powers.
- Don’t harass mods or brigade comms. Don’t word your posts in a way that would trigger such harassment and brigades.
- Do not downvote posts if you think they deserved it. Use the comment votes (see below) for that.
- You can post about power trippin’ in any social media, not just lemmy. Feel free to post about reddit or a forum etc.
- If you are the accused PTB, while you are welcome to respond, please do so within the relevant post.
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YTPB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
Some acronyms you might see.
- PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
- YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
- BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
- CLM - Clueless mod: The mod probably just doesn't understand how their software works.
Relevant comms