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[-] Naich@lemmings.world 251 points 2 weeks ago

Oh FFS. Not Brother as well. I used to recommend them to everyone. Who is left with unshittified printers?

[-] nul9o9@lemmy.world 54 points 2 weeks ago

Epson inkjets with refillable tanks probably.

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 74 points 2 weeks ago

Depending on the frequency of your printing, they can suck as well. Chronically clogged nozzles are maddening.

[-] darkevilmac@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 weeks ago

You can run a power clean cycle which should help, then just replace the foam pads they saturate with ink for the cleaning

They're not perfect but they're still the most consumer friendly option on the market at this point

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

After talking to support 15 times, they never suggested replacing anything, and power clean wasn’t enough. I’ve long since destroyed the thing out of malignant rage and turned to libraries and copy shops, but it’s good to know that there might have been a solution.

[-] Nindelofocho@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Wait until copy shops start raising their prices cause nobody has printers anymore and you have no choice but to use them

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[-] nul9o9@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, that's true. That was a pain in the ass when my wife needed good color accuracy.

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[-] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago

I don't know if it matters, but I just bought a Canon laser printer. Didn't see anywhere about forced subscription options for toner.

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[-] Limonene@lemmy.world 150 points 2 weeks ago

In case anyone was thinking this applies only to inkjet printers: no, it ONLY seems to apply to laser printers -- the thing that Brother used to be known for. Where the article says "ink", they mean "toner". There is no ink in a laser printer.

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[-] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 122 points 2 weeks ago

It's like every company that wasn't complete shit just suddenly decided to...go to complete shit.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago

If regulators don’t stop them from doing it, the CEO’s of publicly traded companies will get the boot from the board for not doing it. They have a fiduciary duty to be as shitty as humanly possible.

We need laws to stop this, but the politicians are all bribed not to.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

They have a fiduciary duty to be as shitty as humanly possible.

They don't -- that's a cargo-cult misunderstanding of Dodge v. Ford Motor Co -- but it's so widely believed I guess it might as well be true.

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[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Unrestrained Capitalism. Without those pesky regulations, companies can charge us all unlimited amounts and not have to consider our rights or health/safety.

[-] bokherif@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

That's what happens when the government allows it openly.

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[-] obinice@lemmy.world 120 points 2 weeks ago

You were the chosen one! 😭

[-] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 weeks ago

They had two things going for them... Decent linux support and non-shitty DRM ink/toner

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[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 91 points 2 weeks ago

I suggest whoever has old firmware files to upload them to the Internet Archive (if they allow those).

[-] datavoid@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago

Internet Archive is extremely lax in what it allows

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[-] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 82 points 2 weeks ago

Brother used to be the good guys... Damn.

[-] junkthief@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 weeks ago

Right? I used to recommend friends and family invest in a brother laser printer instead of inkjet, especially if they didn’t need color

[-] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 79 points 2 weeks ago

Et tu Brother?

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 69 points 2 weeks ago

And once again the only available good tech is old 2nd hand.

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[-] noxypaws@pawb.social 52 points 2 weeks ago

These motherfuckers are actively making tech as a whole less secure by destroying any trust the public may have had in firmware updates.

Urgent security fixes are gonna go unpatched on a lot of shit because consumers are seeing more and more firmware or software updates actively making things WORSE.

[-] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Definitely true. I’ve been putting off an upgrade of my NAS because they have randomly decided to completely remove the video streaming software that came with it when I bought it. So infuriating.

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[-] skankhunt42@lemmy.ca 48 points 2 weeks ago

Nice, Brother was the last one standing in my mind.

I'm glad I have an IoT vlan without internet access. Nothing is allowed to phone home here.

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[-] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

nononononononpnNONONONONONO WHYYYYY I JUST GOT A BROTHER BECAUSE OF HP DOING THE SAME THING WTF

[-] deathbird@mander.xyz 14 points 2 weeks ago

Keep it off the Internet and don't update the firmware

Proton, Mozilla, Brother

Its not gonna stop there

😓

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[-] match@pawb.social 30 points 2 weeks ago

anyone know about jailbreaking printers

[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 weeks ago

It absolutely baffles me that there isn't a huge custom printer firmware movement.

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[-] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 2 weeks ago

Et tu Brute! :(

[-] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 weeks ago
[-] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is a total shit move but I have tried many printers and I'm still choosing Brother everytime. Especially on some older generations with copy scan and print. None of the other big brands are worth a shit. They all fail or jam in some form or fashion.

[-] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

Give them time and they’ll suck too. Nothing is safe from enshitification, as they’ve just shown us.

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[-] flavonol@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

If it's not already under the umbrella of right to repair, do we now need right to refill?

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

I think its time we deprecate most forms of printing. Clearly corporations cannot be trusted to operate these kinds of companies.

[-] digdilem@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 weeks ago

Thats's a shame, I always considered brother one of the better makers of paper manglers.

[-] TheObviousSolution@kbin.melroy.org 18 points 2 weeks ago

If Brother starts playing that game, they will lose. Why bother buying their considerably more expensive printers over those of HP if they are going to be just as bad in the third party ink department?

[-] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago

Going to be honest, didn't realize my Brother laser printer got firmware updates, lol.

In 7 years I've replaced the toner cartridge once, given that the stater cartridge isn't very full I imagine it'll be awhile before I have to replace it again, at least.

They were the last good guys :(

I guess it's time to buy the printer I've been postponing

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[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

if the update doesn’t allow the printer to calibrate with this aftermarket ink the cheaper carts become basically unusable

This isn't true. It just means you have to do the registration manually.

This is scummy behavior for sure, but it's also being exaggerated for clicks. You can read the sources linked in the wiki to see exactly what users are reporting.

[-] LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 weeks ago

This shit happened to me recently. Installed firmware update and immediately my 3rd party toner stops working. Try to find old firmware to roll back to and couldn't locate it anywhere. Found some for other models via Google drive links in Reddit posts, but nothing for my printer.

I replaced the toner with new 3rd party toner which worked. And now I'll never install another firmware update on the printer and should probably block it from the internet.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 14 points 2 weeks ago

Nooo, you were the only remaining printer company that wasn't a customer-hating dumpster fire of a company!

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, Brother.

[-] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 10 points 2 weeks ago

It's going to get to the point where you might be better off going back to dot matrix if tank-based inkjet printers are somehow locked down via chemical DRM too.

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