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[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 129 points 10 months ago

I thought it was common knowledge already by that point. He wants Canada's resources and strategically advantageous geographical location.

The US government is broke. The spending and debt are out of control and their political system has become too dysfunctional to fix it intelligently. He hopes that annexing Canada and exploiting its resources unhindered by regulation will magically solve the problem.

Canadians, do not fall for it. Trump wants you to work in his mines.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 82 points 10 months ago

He doesn't give the first damn about the United States balance sheet. He does about his own enrichment.

[-] Tyfud@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

And his legacy. He wants to be remembered as some great dealmaking king that made deals to get America more states...

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 48 points 10 months ago

Listen, Canadians are very, very aware that we're Poland in 1936 right now.

We are literally begging Americans to wake the fuck up and realise this too, and hopefully stop this insanity before it gets that far.

[-] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

We won't. We will bitch and moan and go to work while the military makes encroachments on your land.

I will be doing fun experiments, in Minecraft.

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[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago

If there is one thing I can promise you, it's that you don't have to tell Canadians not to fall for it. Annexation is a non starter, there is literally no argument that could be given regardless of validity. The fact that any promises are obvious lies is wholly irrelevant.

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That's the stupid part, we're not broke. We're not bogged down with debt, we own the debt, we're overspending on American business and economic output, just because we spend money and have national debt dosen't mean we are collapsing, our corporate stock market based economy needs infinite growth, so gov spending is going to ALSO always go up. That's really basic shit. He isn't fixing a desperate problem, he's looting the fucking country and hoping he gets it all done in time for a Russian airline loaded with gold to take him safely home.

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[-] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 101 points 10 months ago

She said Canada could avoid the tariffs by "becoming the 51st state"

[-] mouserat@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 10 months ago

utterly deranged

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 49 points 10 months ago

Obvious follow up question: if Canada becomes the 51st state, wouldn't that remove the barriers that is keeping all that imaginary fentanyl out of the US?

Do journalists even have brains any more?

[-] drbluefall@toast.ooo 8 points 10 months ago

I imagine they think the military occupation required will solve the problem.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago

Not that any of this is sensible or reasonable, but... why? Why is there any obsession at all with adding Canada as a state? Where did this idea even come from and for what purpose?

[-] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 57 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Why is there any obsession at all with adding Canada as a state?

Because Trump is trying to do to Canada what Putin is doing to Ukraine. Why? Because taking over a major food supply source is where the money will be at (because global warming is slowing expanding the hot zones north and southwards).

Add to that Canada's almost unlimited fresh water supply, lots of spare hydro electricity, a fair amount of rare earth minerals, a large oil source, and a huge portion of the Arctic region (that will soon be ice-free).

[-] TheresNodiee@lemm.ee 28 points 10 months ago

I also wouldn't be surprised if he just wanted to conquer an independent nation just for like chest-bumping, wanna-be strongman reasons.

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[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 30 points 10 months ago

Water, rare earth minerals, other natural resources, labor

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 45 points 10 months ago

And control of all this water, important strategically for Russia, I mean the USA. And Russia.

[-] LimpRimble@lemmy.ca 28 points 10 months ago

This one image really brings the whole situation into perspective.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago

Shhh! Don't spoil Trump's War On Christmas plan to drone strike Santa Claus!

[-] uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

Is... There still any ice in the Arctic?

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

Yes. It's not actually all blue water like it looks here. But there's less and less, and Russia has ice breakers that can deal with a certain amount of ice. Arctic shipping routes are becoming more useful and valuable as the Arctic warms.

[-] radiohead37@lemmynsfw.com 16 points 10 months ago

Trump sees himself as an emperor. He wants to expand the empire and claim that as his legacy. Simple as that.

[-] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 10 months ago

My presumption is that the goal is to establish one homogeneously plutocratic and oligarchic landmass, broken up only by the Bering Strait, running all the way from Florida to Eastern Europe.

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 months ago

Yanks have always been upset we didn't join them way back. That and they cannot let go of manifest destiny.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

IDK, man. Indiana born and raised, and I've never in my life have I even heard about the notion or desire to have Canada merge with the US. It seemingly came out of nowhere and now a ton of idiots are acting like it's genius and even an absolutely imperative now.

But other expanding the US's land and people, and eliminating another sovereign state, what would even be different? Is the expansion the point itself, some weird compulsion to gain control of our neighbors? Or is there some other motivation? It's probably oil isnt it... it's always oil.

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago

what would even be different?

So this sounds like ignorant American exceptionalism. Stuff that fucking noise.

YOU may not have heard it (and I can't link sources), but I have in modern media and from dipshits on the internet.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

So this sounds like ignorant American exceptionalism. Stuff that fucking noise.

That is certainly not what I meant, nor is American Exceptionalism a sentiment I hold. I meant that we already enjoyed free trade between our countries before Trump. Already share resources back and forth. Already have closely related cultures and history. Already have military joint operations. Canada has been our closest ally for centuries. Becoming a state, then, doesn't seem like it would make a ton of differences that the average US citizen would want or even see on the whole. I can see where a narcissist like Trump wants to bully people, take control, be a dictator, etc. But it would make as much direct difference to my life as losing Iowa to the Portuguese would. Obviously if you are in Canada (or Iowa) and suddenly belong to a new county, that will make a make huge difference to you. But if you're a Tennessean tobacco farmer, why do you think it's really important that Canada joins the US? They certainly seem to all of the sudden. That is what I meant by "what would even be different?"

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[-] nyan@lemmy.cafe 5 points 10 months ago

what would even be different?

The Republicans would immediately become unelectable, for starters, because you'd be adding a lot of population that skews much further left politically than any part of the US. And most of us would be extremely pissed off.

On our side, we'd be getting issues we really do not want with health care (and social services in general) and with gun control.

It would likely all end in guerilla warfare. Or worse. Overall, it's a bad deal for both sides.

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[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I've been hearing Americans "joke" about Canada becoming the 51st state all my life. The fact that there's a country on the same land-mass as them, who's people largely speak the same language as them and who has a similar culture to them but doesn't want to be part of their country runs counter to the "Greatest Country in the World" propaganda that they've been indoctrinated with since childhood.

Most of the time, however, the politicians elected to high office are educated enough to know why annexing Canada would be a bad idea, but Trump's mentality never evolved beyond the schoolyard, and those are the ideas that he's bringing to the White House.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 months ago

Under the hypothesis that Russia influences Trump, the point is to drive a wedge between the USA and all other Western democracies, the same way it attempts to create conflict between factions within the USA and other democratic nations.

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[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago

Haven't they been saying that shit for like three weeks now?

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago

Yeah, but they've been claiming it was just a joke.

We know better, of course, but that was what they were pretending.

[-] Punchshark@lemmy.ca 25 points 10 months ago

She is as dumb as she looks

[-] Doubleohdonut@lemmy.ca 17 points 10 months ago

"President Musk needs ALL the rare minerals required for electronics"

[-] Devanismyname@lemmy.ca 16 points 10 months ago

No use in being a us ally.

[-] tehWrapper@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

It always feels like they have real reporters in the seats at these things, and a bunch of younger reporters asking softball scripted questions standing around.

Am I the only one that feels this way?

[-] TheEtherBunny@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

What else would a narcissistic megalomaniac want?

[-] Ghost33313@beehaw.org 11 points 10 months ago

Putin wants US alliances to crumble. As his pawn, Trump will continue to sew chaos.

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[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 months ago

Hasn't Trump already said this? This isn't the press sec saying anything Orange Mussolini hasn't already been explicit about. It's one of their talking points.

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[-] Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Canada should coordinate with the Hague. Invite trump to Canada at the same time the ICC issues a warrant.

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