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[-] narfer@lemm.ee 1 points 10 minutes ago

This 😂. A fucking genius choosing pseudoscience...

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 10 points 1 hour ago

He tried to fight P.C. with apples.

[-] UniversalMonk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago

Well they do sorta have a point. Even Jobs said he shouldn't have ignored treatment for so long.

[-] wieson@feddit.org 16 points 3 hours ago

Back on the old site on one of those text based subreddits there was a question posted:

Would you rather have free WiFi wherever you go, or any apple product you wish at any time.

My (then unrotted) brain was like: mmh WiFi everywhere is good, but apple cake, apple pie, apple sauce, apple spritz, apple cider, apple strudel, dried apples... Yeah I'm going with apple products

[-] LucidLyes@lemmy.world 19 points 3 hours ago

Jobs paved the way for Musk. I hate that he's so often cited as a genius to look up to in the tech world

People mistaking Marketing people for tech genies happens to often.

[-] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

The truth of genius is its only momentary and usually highly specific.

[-] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 33 points 5 hours ago

Also bought his way up the organ donor list even after he took so long ignoring it, passing over a bunch of people who should have had claim to it and some who died instead, all just so he could die anyway because he took too long to get treatment. Failed so hard multiple people died.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 4 hours ago

Source on this? I read that Tim Apple offered a donation and Steve refused. I have not read that he had the surgery.

[-] easily3667@lemmus.org 12 points 3 hours ago

You can literally just look on Wikipedia. Tim cook offered part of his, jobs said "nah I want a whole one from some poor person" and the rest is history.

[-] Juice@midwest.social 36 points 5 hours ago

Being rich makes you so divorced from consequences that you start to believe that what is in your brain is what is real. Money isn't what we think it is.

[-] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 hours ago

These words resonate so hard with me that my head is ringing like a bell right now. “Money isn’t what we think it is.” ^5, you.

[-] shortrounddev@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Money is like radioactive material. Having a little bit in your house probably is fine but having a mountain of it will make you hole up in a Las Vegas hotel with tissue boxes for shoes

[-] easily3667@lemmus.org 3 points 3 hours ago

Or you can become president

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 hours ago

It's unfortunate because his leadership / sense of taste is what made Apple a powerhouse. Under Tim Apple, the software has languished. They're great at hardware and the software is far from great. What a shame.

[-] easily3667@lemmus.org 9 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

"leadership" by which you mean being abusive to his colleagues and refusing to take a shower.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 hour ago

He was a dick, but he had a good mind for products. He wasn't infallible, but he had a sense of taste that was useful in driving others who had greater skills than he.

[-] moseschrute@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Fact check: he did shower. It’s just his definition of a shower was plunging his feed in the company toilets.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 5 points 4 hours ago

Eh, I feel like Jobs was in charge when he could create new products.

Outside of a different Apple Watch launch, I don't see Jobs really having the ability to create new innovative products.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 hour ago

He didn't create new products. He conducted the people who were creating new products and steered them. He wasn't a genius. He was good at guiding people who were.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm not saying Jobs was a genius, but he was skilled at leading product design teams that turned cutting edge hardware to practical applications that the market could understand.

And, in general, the market over the past few years has seen little hardware innovation.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 37 minutes ago

What? Microsoft is putting an AI key on every keyboard! Now there's two keys to replace if you don't run windows. If that's not innovation, I don't know what is.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 36 points 8 hours ago

Only fanboys. The same kind that worship Musk or any other fellated-by-the-press CEO as some kind of hero. They softball any criticisms and turn them into positives - “He murdered a bunch of kids, but the creativity he got from the blood splatter and time spent in court-ordered community service got us this addictive device we’re all fawning over…let’s justify the ridiculous price and wait in line for one!” Something about objectively shitty people heading up organizations seems to attract sycophants and bootlickers.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 4 points 4 hours ago

Only fanboys.

Oh I wish. It’s more like 2/3 of American society, and I’m sure plenty of others around the world. But if you wanted to cast a wide net and call them fanboys of the rich, I guess that’s fair.

If you are worth billions, and even moreso if you are a business leader and therefore “earned” those billions, then “worship” is the right word. They are not just good people, but the greatest among us who should be put in charge of everything. (Enter our new emperor)

[-] Tiger_Man_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 94 points 10 hours ago
[-] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 16 points 4 hours ago

Not to mention the actual pioneer of generic-text languages, the inventor of the compiler, Grace Hopper.

https://www.biography.com/scientist/grace-hopper

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago

I highly doubt the consequences of Dennis Richie not existing. Yes, his work was foundational, but he didn't do it on his own, and if he wasn't around, someone else would've filled in.

The same is true for Steve Jobs. In fact, most of his contribution was being a jerk to people so his ideas won. He had a clear vision, but his internal implementation was... iffy.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 11 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

My crusading teenage ass posted this in 2011 on social media. Nobody cared lol

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 30 points 9 hours ago

well one is good at selling stuff including himself

[-] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 10 hours ago

I mean, fucking up is a common thing people do and is an integral part of the human condition. What should be emphasized about Jobs case is that he fucked up his own liver, learned the cause and treatments, used his wealth to cut in the waiting line to get a liver transplant, and then fucked his second liver just the same way. This is the definition of terminally stupid, and no UX focus will ever change that.

[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 43 points 10 hours ago

I remember reading a story a while back about the documentary they were making on him. He had his special diet of juices and supplements and whatnot, which he claimed helped him while his liver was failing. The actor who portrayed him started following the same diet to better get in character. Only then he collapsed on set with liver problems. They did a full medical work up and basically told him whatever you're doing stop doing it because it's killing you. He went back to his normal diet and he was fine. Raising the serious question, did Steve Jobs outsmart himself to death? If he had given up all the diets and supplements and whatnot might he have lived?

[-] easily3667@lemmus.org 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

If "outsmart" is ignore people who know things because you believe you know everything....yes

A better description would be that he treated his body the way he treated his employees. Or he let himself believe his own reality distortion field. "Outsmart" is not the word I'd choose for a narcissistic asshole who thinks he knows better but in fact does not.

[-] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 12 points 8 hours ago

If he had pursued modern medical treatments rather than a sugar filled diet he might have lived. He would have to have stepped down though and he did not want to do that.

He would also have to admit he was completely wrong about his diet and that he absolutely did not want to do as it was tied to some dumbass "philosophy" he followed.

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[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 hours ago

Thought Apples would save him back.

[-] hOrni@lemmy.world 40 points 11 hours ago

Imagine how insufferable he would be today.

[-] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 18 points 10 hours ago

Couldn't be worse than Muskrat.

[-] hOrni@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I shudder thinking about the bullshit these two would spill being together on Joe Rogan.

[-] easily3667@lemmus.org 1 points 1 hour ago

And then one time I made my workers sit in a room with me when I hadn't showered for 3 months!

That's nothing, one time I forced my employees back to work in the middle of a pandemic and the government of California was so busy covering up it's own crimes and pro-slavery views that they didn't do shit.

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