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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 96 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"I feel terrible for the American people because it's not the American people, and it's not even elected officials, it's one person,"

Americans elected Trump, and Americans are failing to do anything to reign Trump in.
These are the official policies for the COUNTRY! So unfortunately, this is not just one person, it is de facto USA as a whole.

If it was only Trump, it would just be Trump refusing to buy Canadian for himself. As it is, the whole apparatus is enforcing these decisions, and they impact all of USA.

[-] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 61 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The US electoral system is broken and has always been broken. Republicans have spent the past 2 decades gerrymandering and introducing as much legislation as possible to manipulate the outcome of elections in as many districts as possible. They've introduced legislation: to prevent people with debt from voting, to prevent people with criminal records from voting, to prevent people who cannot physically make it to polling stations from voting. The Republicans and the ruling class own all the largest media organizations in the United States, and they have weaponized social media and traditional media to indoctrinate and manipulate as many people as possible.

Trump won this election with fewer votes than he lost in 2020. He won mostly because Republicans and Democrats are material allies in neoliberal and imperialist endeavors. Democrats refused to campaign on progressive politics, instead choosing to run on a more conservative campaign than they ever have before.

The working class is not responsible for their own manipulation at the hands of the ruling class. It is not their fault that the system is broken. It is not the fault of American families who literally can not afford to resist, as without the income from their jobs, they will lose their homes and be unable to feed themselves and their children.

Capitalism is the problem. Conservatism, and by extension neoliberalism and fascism, is the problem. Donald Trump is an accelerationist fascist. He will not wait and seeks to plunge the nation headlong into fascism as soon as possible. But do not mistake that as being in opposition to the social and political system of America. Donald Trump is entirely a representative of the failure of American democracy, not a representative of the American people. He manipulated people into voting for him, as evidenced by widespread outrage at his actions even among those who ostensibly voted for him.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

The US electoral system is broken

Which is why it's considered a flawed democracy, which I stated.

Republicans have spent the past 2 decades gerrymandering

Except Trump actually won the popular vote this time. Making this argument void regarding the presidential election 2024.

Republicans and Democrats are material allies

That far I agree, they have arranged it so they share power, except this time, Republicans may choose not to share it anymore.

The working class is not responsible for their own manipulation at the hands of the ruling class. It is not their fault that the system is broken.

Isn't it? Haven't they mostly agreed on this arrangement because for decades many mostly whites benefited from it too?

Capitalism is the problem

I partially agree, but there is no real alternative to capitalism, and definitely not anything proven, the problem is not capitalism but how it is managed. In a social democracy it can work pretty well.

[-] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago

Regarding the capitalism part

I'd say that what we see today is the logical conclusion of capitalism. In a way it's a broken system, it just takes time to collapse. But growing wealth inequality and consolidation of power are inherent problems in capitalism, and we were always going to see times like this. I mean, for further example, look at climate change and how it's damn near impossible to actually solve the problem

It's more that there is little political will for an alternative system, but don't get me wrong, if humanity wants to survive in the long run, there is no easy way out. I seriously do think that, either humanity makes a global economy that serves people, and not capital, or we will self-destruct due to systemic incentives of the profit incentive

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[-] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

And it’s not like the tariffs were a bait and switch. Trump literally had them in his platform.

In fact, all the crap he’s been pulling was in his platform. He’s doing exactly what he promised he would do, and half the country was like, “Maybe this isn’t a good idea” and the other half enthusiastically voted him and then are shocked he’s doing exactly what he said he would do.

This is like the time the UK voted for Brexit and then became shocked when Brexit happened.

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[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

This. I can't stand how they blame the system for a choice they chose to make, be it voting for the orange turd, or sitting it out to protest a war halfway across the world, knowing fully well that he'd use that complacency ro return to office. Now the rest of us are dragged into the muck.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Absolutely, Trump was elected in a democratic election.
USA is a (flawed) democracy supposedly with checks and balances.
It's not like some military general overthrew the democracy out of nowhere.

Obviously there are good Americans that oppose this, and tried to prevent it, but they are unfortunately a minority, and as a whole USA as a country is doing this, and letting it happen.

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[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago
[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago

We’re gonna get a nice trump recession. All the fuckbrains will have to contend with their stupidity. I just hope I don’t get what they deserve.

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Lol 'Trump recession'.

Better get ready for Trump destitution, with the way things are going

[-] voodooattack@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I wonder how long it’s gonna take for the Americans to impeach him again

[-] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Considering it has no effect or impact, I don't think they'll bother. Everyone's just hoping for a heart attack or a bullet at this point, because the way this government is set up, it apparently can't do shit to save the country.

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[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Impeachment is dumb af. It has been of no consequence for more than 50 years. We need a different solution, something effective, something we can execute without relying on help from traitors.

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[-] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 53 points 1 week ago

Some highlights I found interesting:

The tariffs have been met with deep anxiety in Canada, whose majority of exports are sold to companies and clients in the US. Officials predict up to a million job losses if a 25% across the board levy went ahead, while economists warn that a recession is imminent if they persist.

Even with the tariffs being scaled back temporarily, the uncertainty alone is hurting both American and Canadian economies, says Rob Gillezeau, an assistant professor of economic analysis and policy at the University of Toronto.

"The most sensitive thing to uncertainty is business investment," Prof Gillezeau says, adding that firms are "not going to want to spend a dime anywhere" until they have some clarity.

That trepidation is also seen in the stock market, which had erased virtually all its gains since Trump won the presidency in November.

[-] XTL@sopuli.xyz 28 points 1 week ago

Proof that the rug can be pulled out from under you is a good sign that you need to prepare for that.

[-] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 10 points 1 week ago

These sorts of preparations speak about the uncertainty mentioned in the article. That kind of uncertainty also hurts both countries. I don’t think there’s any net benefit to anyone.

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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

million job losses if a 25% across the board levy went ahead, while economists warn that a recession is imminent if they persist.

Obviously this will harm the economy initially, probably much like when Finland lost most of Nokia. (Nokia was a huge part of Finish economy and jobs)
But Finland rose again quickly, and Canada will too, because Canada is a country that is very well liked in most of the world, and will have no problem increasing trade elsewhere.
There will be a transitional period, but on the upside also greater independence from USA.
Luckily Canada does not suffer from Dutch disease like Finland did. So Canada will be more flexible in the ways it can recover quickly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_disease

USA on the other hand, will not be in similar position to recoup their trade losses with, Mexico, Canada, EU, UK and China.
So USA will probably face a harder recession than Canada.

And that's probably Trump's plan, to weaken the entire west, including USA, NATO and of course Europe to benefit Russia.

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[-] d00phy@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago

As an American, I hope more countries choose this path. Trump, and a large number of Americans need to understand that “American exceptionalism” only matters to (some) Americans. A community of nations means no one country gets to dictate to all the others. Eventually that isolationism some of my country clamor for will come to feel pretty lonely as fewer and fewer countries put up with our BS.

[-] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

Honest question - are Canadians generally fine with normal US citizens with no untoward agenda still coming to visit and shop in Canada? I love partaking in the cuisine, a museum, and a library in a relatively nearby border town. Especially the more ethnically-diverse cuisine, because shitty generic Americana fare gets tiresome. Canadian Tire is fun, too, although I do secretly wonder why it's not Canadian Tyre. Curious to know if US plates on a car in Canada generate a negative response nowadays.

Also, I'm sorry about the reality for which I felt the need to ask this question.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 week ago

Come and spend your money in our economy, sure!

I doubt you'll have any trouble unless you have MAGA bullshit on display or are driving a Tesla.

[-] banana_rock@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

We dislike your president and the shit show he's caused. If you're willing to spend your hard earned money here though we'll welcome you with open arms.

[-] cleanandsunny@literature.cafe 28 points 1 week ago

We were recently in Vancouver, and people were happy to have us! You shouldn’t worry. We did some extra shopping in solidarity and they appreciated our support.

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 11 points 1 week ago

Most of the people I know are not okay with Americans right now. I’m in Alberta tho.

[-] CuffsOffWilly@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

That is surprising. I would anticipated the opposite in Alberta.

[-] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

“Well, they’re very… sensitive.”

-BC

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[-] imvii@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

I own a business in Canada which gets a ton of tourists. I'm fine with everyone coming in.

That said, if they're wearing a MAGA red hat or a Trump shirt, I'm not quite sure what I'd do. I'd probably tell them they can't come in wearing that. I think it would be hilarious to make these scrubs leave their hats in the car.

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[-] gonzo-rand19@moist.catsweat.com 4 points 1 week ago

Come spend your money, just don't act all full of yourself like some Americans do.

Also, "tyre" is British spelling. We kind of have our own spelling where we generally use British spelling, but not for everything. For example, we don't spell fetus as "foetus" or estrogen as "oestrogen" either. There's probably some fancy official name for it.

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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

Trump thinks he can simply order things up like he's getting a Big Mac, and the courts and other countries are demonstrating to him that the world and the US do not work that way.

Also, I hate how normal this feels. Everyone's still struggling to pay for food, utilities, and health care, but now the other 49% are making excuses because now it's their shitty guy in charge of it, and the people who were making excuses while it happened for the last four years are pretending they give a shit.

[-] techclothes@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

Eh, the last 4 years were rough, but we were coming out of a pandemic and had one of the best, if not the best recovery in the world. To pin how we responded to covid on Biden is disingenuous. I voted for him because I didn't want Trump, but outside of his really bad fumble for the recent election (and his support of Isreal genociding Palestinians), he did a rather decent job.

[-] ubergeek@lemmy.today 13 points 1 week ago

had one of the best, if not the best recovery in the world

And that's really sad. The "best recovery in the world" and we're still inches away from a destitute working class, and ever-increasing wealth for the oligarchs.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 week ago

Trump's only benefit during COVID was recognizing that getting the vaccine faster was worth paying a higher price for it.

His administration was playing favorites in distributing medical aid and he was part of the decisions to keep closures from happening early in the pandemic.

And a lot of Trump's first term was just being ineffective. He didn't really steer the ship because his administration didn't know how.

the pandemic response was fucked. trump failed catastrophically. biden failed catastrophically. covid is now endemic. it is not past tense.

more than that, the whole field of epidemiology and study of infectious diseases is now polarized; like 30% of the country is actively opposed to the very concept of public health measures now.

we did not recover. trump could have saved us with a fast and severe response, calling for immediate quarantines, saying to compartmentalize your social groups-maybe on the level of your office or your church to limit contagion, talking up the vaccine research he'd authorized, and wearing a mask in public whenever he could so his followers would take lead. he did the opposite of all those things. biden could have saved us by buckling down, keeping drug companies for taking profit from tax funded research, and making some hard decisions on sacrificing to do a big international aid push, quarantining, etc.

neither of them did those things. both of them had a responsibility to. fuck those guys.

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[-] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

It's a temporary reprieve for a reason. Canadians would have to have American levels of comprehension of what's happening to back off now

narcissists will not respect you if you don't fight them tooth and nail on every single possible thing.

if you give them an inch, you are done. do not let the americans have shit. punish every gesture.

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

American here.

Keep doing what you're doing Canada. Don't play this retard's game. The ONLY thing conservatives understand is money. Hit them where it hurts. It's the only thing that'll make them sour on this traitor.

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[-] MyMotherIsAHamster@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago

Hell yeah - it'll be a looooong time, if ever, before we can trust the U.S. again as a neighbour and ally. Right now, they're nothing less than an enemy.

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

As an American, I can't blame you for having this sentiment. Canada and Canadians don't deserve the stupid shit the Trump administration and its followers are dishing out. Like many here, I'm disgusted that we are treating one of our closest abd staunchest allies in such a crappy way. I hope you guys continue to play hardball on this stuff.

[-] MyMotherIsAHamster@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

I've got both family and friends in the U.S., and have always enjoyed my time there, like most Canadians I think - but we're pissed off now, and we're gonna protect ourselves and the country we love any way we can. Here's hoping this madness ends soon, although right now it's hard to see how :-(. Cheers, and thanks for the support!

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[-] jonathan7luke@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago

The title could really use an extra comma and some quotation marks...

[-] ladel@feddit.uk 7 points 1 week ago

It took me a while to work out why they were so critical of Canada

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[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

Although Trump has since lifted some of the tariffs imposed this week and put others on pause until 2 April, many Canadians say the damage has already been done.

The Cheeto Devil started backtracking already?

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[-] Baguette@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Well hopefully with the impending economic downturn the US will get their shit together... Right?

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