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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 106 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"I feel terrible for the American people because it's not the American people, and it's not even elected officials, it's one person,"

Americans elected Trump, and Americans are failing to do anything to reign Trump in.
These are the official policies for the COUNTRY! So unfortunately, this is not just one person, it is de facto USA as a whole.

If it was only Trump, it would just be Trump refusing to buy Canadian for himself. As it is, the whole apparatus is enforcing these decisions, and they impact all of USA.

[-] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 72 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The US electoral system is broken and has always been broken. Republicans have spent the past 2 decades gerrymandering and introducing as much legislation as possible to manipulate the outcome of elections in as many districts as possible. They've introduced legislation: to prevent people with debt from voting, to prevent people with criminal records from voting, to prevent people who cannot physically make it to polling stations from voting. The Republicans and the ruling class own all the largest media organizations in the United States, and they have weaponized social media and traditional media to indoctrinate and manipulate as many people as possible.

Trump won this election with fewer votes than he lost in 2020. He won mostly because Republicans and Democrats are material allies in neoliberal and imperialist endeavors. Democrats refused to campaign on progressive politics, instead choosing to run on a more conservative campaign than they ever have before.

The working class is not responsible for their own manipulation at the hands of the ruling class. It is not their fault that the system is broken. It is not the fault of American families who literally can not afford to resist, as without the income from their jobs, they will lose their homes and be unable to feed themselves and their children.

Capitalism is the problem. Conservatism, and by extension neoliberalism and fascism, is the problem. Donald Trump is an accelerationist fascist. He will not wait and seeks to plunge the nation headlong into fascism as soon as possible. But do not mistake that as being in opposition to the social and political system of America. Donald Trump is entirely a representative of the failure of American democracy, not a representative of the American people. He manipulated people into voting for him, as evidenced by widespread outrage at his actions even among those who ostensibly voted for him.

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[-] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago

And it’s not like the tariffs were a bait and switch. Trump literally had them in his platform.

In fact, all the crap he’s been pulling was in his platform. He’s doing exactly what he promised he would do, and half the country was like, “Maybe this isn’t a good idea” and the other half enthusiastically voted him and then are shocked he’s doing exactly what he said he would do.

This is like the time the UK voted for Brexit and then became shocked when Brexit happened.

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[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

This. I can't stand how they blame the system for a choice they chose to make, be it voting for the orange turd, or sitting it out to protest a war halfway across the world, knowing fully well that he'd use that complacency ro return to office. Now the rest of us are dragged into the muck.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Absolutely, Trump was elected in a democratic election.
USA is a (flawed) democracy supposedly with checks and balances.
It's not like some military general overthrew the democracy out of nowhere.

Obviously there are good Americans that oppose this, and tried to prevent it, but they are unfortunately a minority, and as a whole USA as a country is doing this, and letting it happen.

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[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago
[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago

American here.

Keep doing what you're doing Canada. Don't play this retard's game. The ONLY thing conservatives understand is money. Hit them where it hurts. It's the only thing that'll make them sour on this traitor.

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[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago

We’re gonna get a nice trump recession. All the fuckbrains will have to contend with their stupidity. I just hope I don’t get what they deserve.

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Lol 'Trump recession'.

Better get ready for Trump destitution, with the way things are going

[-] voodooattack@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I wonder how long it’s gonna take for the Americans to impeach him again

[-] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Considering it has no effect or impact, I don't think they'll bother. Everyone's just hoping for a heart attack or a bullet at this point, because the way this government is set up, it apparently can't do shit to save the country.

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[-] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 55 points 1 week ago

Some highlights I found interesting:

The tariffs have been met with deep anxiety in Canada, whose majority of exports are sold to companies and clients in the US. Officials predict up to a million job losses if a 25% across the board levy went ahead, while economists warn that a recession is imminent if they persist.

Even with the tariffs being scaled back temporarily, the uncertainty alone is hurting both American and Canadian economies, says Rob Gillezeau, an assistant professor of economic analysis and policy at the University of Toronto.

"The most sensitive thing to uncertainty is business investment," Prof Gillezeau says, adding that firms are "not going to want to spend a dime anywhere" until they have some clarity.

That trepidation is also seen in the stock market, which had erased virtually all its gains since Trump won the presidency in November.

[-] XTL@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 week ago

Proof that the rug can be pulled out from under you is a good sign that you need to prepare for that.

[-] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 12 points 1 week ago

These sorts of preparations speak about the uncertainty mentioned in the article. That kind of uncertainty also hurts both countries. I don’t think there’s any net benefit to anyone.

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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

million job losses if a 25% across the board levy went ahead, while economists warn that a recession is imminent if they persist.

Obviously this will harm the economy initially, probably much like when Finland lost most of Nokia. (Nokia was a huge part of Finish economy and jobs)
But Finland rose again quickly, and Canada will too, because Canada is a country that is very well liked in most of the world, and will have no problem increasing trade elsewhere.
There will be a transitional period, but on the upside also greater independence from USA.
Luckily Canada does not suffer from Dutch disease like Finland did. So Canada will be more flexible in the ways it can recover quickly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_disease

USA on the other hand, will not be in similar position to recoup their trade losses with, Mexico, Canada, EU, UK and China.
So USA will probably face a harder recession than Canada.

And that's probably Trump's plan, to weaken the entire west, including USA, NATO and of course Europe to benefit Russia.

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[-] d00phy@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago

As an American, I hope more countries choose this path. Trump, and a large number of Americans need to understand that “American exceptionalism” only matters to (some) Americans. A community of nations means no one country gets to dictate to all the others. Eventually that isolationism some of my country clamor for will come to feel pretty lonely as fewer and fewer countries put up with our BS.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago

Trump thinks he can simply order things up like he's getting a Big Mac, and the courts and other countries are demonstrating to him that the world and the US do not work that way.

Also, I hate how normal this feels. Everyone's still struggling to pay for food, utilities, and health care, but now the other 49% are making excuses because now it's their shitty guy in charge of it, and the people who were making excuses while it happened for the last four years are pretending they give a shit.

[-] techclothes@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago

Eh, the last 4 years were rough, but we were coming out of a pandemic and had one of the best, if not the best recovery in the world. To pin how we responded to covid on Biden is disingenuous. I voted for him because I didn't want Trump, but outside of his really bad fumble for the recent election (and his support of Isreal genociding Palestinians), he did a rather decent job.

[-] ubergeek@lemmy.today 18 points 1 week ago

had one of the best, if not the best recovery in the world

And that's really sad. The "best recovery in the world" and we're still inches away from a destitute working class, and ever-increasing wealth for the oligarchs.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 7 points 1 week ago

Trump's only benefit during COVID was recognizing that getting the vaccine faster was worth paying a higher price for it.

His administration was playing favorites in distributing medical aid and he was part of the decisions to keep closures from happening early in the pandemic.

And a lot of Trump's first term was just being ineffective. He didn't really steer the ship because his administration didn't know how.

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[-] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago

It's a temporary reprieve for a reason. Canadians would have to have American levels of comprehension of what's happening to back off now

narcissists will not respect you if you don't fight them tooth and nail on every single possible thing.

if you give them an inch, you are done. do not let the americans have shit. punish every gesture.

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[-] MyMotherIsAHamster@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 week ago

Hell yeah - it'll be a looooong time, if ever, before we can trust the U.S. again as a neighbour and ally. Right now, they're nothing less than an enemy.

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

As an American, I can't blame you for having this sentiment. Canada and Canadians don't deserve the stupid shit the Trump administration and its followers are dishing out. Like many here, I'm disgusted that we are treating one of our closest abd staunchest allies in such a crappy way. I hope you guys continue to play hardball on this stuff.

[-] MyMotherIsAHamster@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

I've got both family and friends in the U.S., and have always enjoyed my time there, like most Canadians I think - but we're pissed off now, and we're gonna protect ourselves and the country we love any way we can. Here's hoping this madness ends soon, although right now it's hard to see how :-(. Cheers, and thanks for the support!

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

It's going to require my fellow Americans grow a brain and a conscience. Or learn that y'all're'nt just silly maple folks who like hockey but a whole entire country that can and will fight back

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[-] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

Honest question - are Canadians generally fine with normal US citizens with no untoward agenda still coming to visit and shop in Canada? I love partaking in the cuisine, a museum, and a library in a relatively nearby border town. Especially the more ethnically-diverse cuisine, because shitty generic Americana fare gets tiresome. Canadian Tire is fun, too, although I do secretly wonder why it's not Canadian Tyre. Curious to know if US plates on a car in Canada generate a negative response nowadays.

Also, I'm sorry about the reality for which I felt the need to ask this question.

[-] banana_rock@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

We dislike your president and the shit show he's caused. If you're willing to spend your hard earned money here though we'll welcome you with open arms.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 week ago

Come and spend your money in our economy, sure!

I doubt you'll have any trouble unless you have MAGA bullshit on display or are driving a Tesla.

[-] cleanandsunny@literature.cafe 28 points 1 week ago

We were recently in Vancouver, and people were happy to have us! You shouldn’t worry. We did some extra shopping in solidarity and they appreciated our support.

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 11 points 1 week ago

Most of the people I know are not okay with Americans right now. I’m in Alberta tho.

[-] CuffsOffWilly@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

That is surprising. I would anticipated the opposite in Alberta.

[-] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

“Well, they’re very… sensitive.”

-BC

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[-] imvii@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

I own a business in Canada which gets a ton of tourists. I'm fine with everyone coming in.

That said, if they're wearing a MAGA red hat or a Trump shirt, I'm not quite sure what I'd do. I'd probably tell them they can't come in wearing that. I think it would be hilarious to make these scrubs leave their hats in the car.

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Yeah we’re not playing this back and forth game, just hit the Americans with tariffs and make them stick. Tbh I’m liking this “buy Canadian” movement that Americans have finally awakened

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[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

“I feel terrible for the American people because it’s not the American people, and it’s not even elected officials, it’s one person,”

Like hell. Congress is the one thing with the power to end this madness. The Republicans in control of both houses are absolutely responsible as they are doing literally nothing to rein in Trump's madness.

[-] pinheadednightmare@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

Agreed. It’s 80% of the elected officials at this point. It’s unfortunate that foreign puppets are in power.

[-] jonathan7luke@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago

The title could really use an extra comma and some quotation marks...

[-] ladel@feddit.uk 7 points 1 week ago

It took me a while to work out why they were so critical of Canada

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[-] healthetank@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

Something also not touched on in the article is the HUGE number of ukrainians we have in our country, particularly in the praries. We're ranked in the top 3 for ukrianians/Ukraine heritage, below Ukraine and Russia.

I'd argue most Canadians are pretty pro-Ukraine, and the US wiffle-waffling on that as well stings deep.

What if, hear me out, what if we trick trump into thinking DC is canada? Maybe we would be DC statehood then? 👀

[-] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

DC and Puerto Rico will become states the same day that we are 100% sure how they will vote in future elections, and the party we are certain they will vote for has the executive and congressional majority.

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