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[-] 30p87@feddit.org 192 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So we need to be careful with upper- and lowercase. Meanwhile the docs: > settiings

[-] janonymous@lemmy.world 108 points 11 months ago

Yes, the settiings are different than the settings. You also need to be careful with those.

[-] Bezier@suppo.fi 38 points 10 months ago

had to use a different spelliings at backend and frontend, otherwise it wouldn't work.

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

no, settings = settings but settings != Settings, as we all know.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 6 points 10 months ago

There's a double-i in "settings" in the documentation screenshot

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

That's what I get for having sucky vision.

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[-] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago

They specifically said "this is not a typo"!!!

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 92 points 11 months ago

Is the backend Python and the frontend JavaScript? Because then that would happen and just be normal, because Boolean true is True in python.

[-] testfactor@lemmy.world 140 points 11 months ago

Probably, but if you're interpreting user inputs as raw code, you've got much much worse problems going on, lol.

[-] mmddmm@lemm.ee 19 points 11 months ago

It's the settiings file... It's probably supposed to only be written by the system admin.

[-] raldone01@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

A good place to put persistent malware. That's why when using docker images always mount as ro if at all possible.

[-] ashley@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago

It’s you can modify the settings file you sure as hell can put the malware anywhere you want

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[-] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago

Given the warning about capitalization, the best possible case is that they're using ast.literal_eval() rather than throwing untrusted input into eval().

Err, I guess they might be comparing strings to 'True' and are choosing to be really strict about capitalization for some reason.

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 12 points 10 months ago

Yeah. Maybe .to_lower() is really expensive in their environment, lol.

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[-] shortrounddev@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

I curse the sadist who decided True should be uppercase in Python

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[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 16 points 11 months ago

Can't they just convert a "true" input to backend to uppercase

[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 10 months ago

Yep they should use a config file format like JSON or TOML or YAML or what have you, and then decode that into python objects. Using an actual programming language for config is dumb as hell IMO. (inb4 pissed off suckless fans)

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 5 points 11 months ago

Depends on how it's set up. If the setting is going into the env it's a string, so I'd expect some sort of

if os.getenv("this_variable", "false").lower() == "true":   # or maybe "in true, yes, on, 1" if you want to be weird like yaml
  this_variable = True
else:
  this_variable = False

Except maybe a little more elegant and not typed on my phone.

But if the instructions are telling the user to edit the settings directly, like where I wrote this_variable=True, they'd need to case it correctly there.

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[-] MHLoppy@fedia.io 9 points 11 months ago

Searching for the phrase, documentation matches for Taiga so maybe you're right!

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[-] SatyrSack@feddit.org 88 points 10 months ago

Could be worse. At least it's documented

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[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 33 points 11 months ago

The cherry on top is that they didn't even spell settings correctly.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

settiings is spelled differently on the backend

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[-] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 20 points 10 months ago

Glorious. I remember some hilarious nonsense in an API where the devs I worked with hadn't known they could just use boolean in JSON and had badly implemented it through strings, but this... This is amazing!

[-] jimmux@programming.dev 9 points 10 months ago

At my last job we had a lot of old code, and our supposedly smartest framework people couldn't be bothered learning front end properly. So there was a mix of methods for passing values to the front end, but nobody seemed to think of just passing JSON and parsing it into a single source of truth. There was so much digging for data in hidden columns of nested HTML tables, and you never knew if booleans would be "true", "TRUE", "1", or "Y" strings.

Never mind having to unformat currency strings to check the value then format them back to strings after updating values.

I fixed this stuff when I could, but it was half baked into the custom framework.

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[-] dpflug@kbin.earth 18 points 10 months ago

Implying Hell is frontend.... yeah, actually, that tracks.

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[-] Tja@programming.dev 16 points 10 months ago

And you all complained when in C we used 1 and 0...

[-] npcknapsack@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago
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[-] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 14 points 11 months ago

Hear me out, what about using JSON to store the configuration in the Python backend?

[-] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

You need to use as many different formats as possible, otherwise you look unprofessional

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 6 points 10 months ago

I like your idea, but hear me out:

A Python file for configuration is the best way to guarantee that any friendly code I write to help the user with config usually won't execute. And I hate my users.

[-] oldfart@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago

What happened to the good old 1

[-] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 10 months ago

Backend: 1

Frontend: ¹

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[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 10 months ago

var true = false;

var false = true;

[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago

I’ve always hated case sensitivity. I know that at an ASCII level “variable” != “Variable” but is there really a reason to have a distinction between them?

[-] vithigar@lemmy.ca 22 points 10 months ago

You stated the reason yourself. Those are different values and matching in a case-insensitive manner is more work under the hood.

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[-] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 19 points 10 months ago

You are thinking it's easy because you only think of e == E, but I'll let you look up collation and accents and, you know, Unicode and let you think about it.

There is nothing trivial about case sensitivity, except in trivial cases.

[-] lily33@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago

That makes me think, perhaps, you might be able to set it to exec("stuff") or True...

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
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[-] Draegur@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

Cap in the back, low-key up front. Got it.

[-] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

The backend and frontend on the product I work on are like this.

As long as you remember that booleans are not strings and should always be parsed if they are, this won't be a problem.

I am yet to see a boolean.parse() implementation in the wild that is case sensitive.

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[-] dave@feddit.uk 5 points 10 months ago
[-] owl@infosec.pub 5 points 10 months ago

't'+'r'+'u'+'e'

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