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Inspired by the recent c/AskLemmy question about Myanmar.


As a PRC-born ethnic Han-Chinese person who currently is a US Citizen and reside in the US, I'm curious on what people think of my former country.

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[-] dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de 17 points 2 weeks ago

Very interesting history and culture, plastered over with bland authoritarian turbo-capitalism that disguises itself as communism.

[-] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago
[-] ACbHrhMJ@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Uyghur people in concentration camps while tourists invade their homes

[-] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

There are vanishingly few tourists in Xinjiang. Indeed they won't even give you a visa if you say you're going there.

[-] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 8 points 2 weeks ago

A ruthlessly effective technocracy that has achieved very impressive outcomes for their citizens¹ while also being a cultural / societal system I never want to live in. For some reason super obsessed with outside appearances.

1:

From 1995 to 2025:

  • GDP/c: 603 to 13973
  • Literacy rates: 77% to 96%
  • University graduates per year: 900K to 10M
  • Life expectancy: 33 to 77
  • Railway km: 54616 to 160000 (50000 high speed)
  • Urbanization rate: 29% to 67%

etc.

[-] vaguerant@fedia.io 6 points 2 weeks ago

I like the idea that these were your first impressions of China, as in you stepped off a plane, had one look around and thought "Wow, this place seems like a ruthlessly effective technocracy that has achieved very impressive outcomes for its citizens but it's certainly a cultural-slash-societal system I never want to live in."

University graduates

You forgot the Gaokao that's 10x harder than the US SAT/ACT 💀

[-] Blackout@fedia.io 5 points 2 weeks ago

Massive cities with LED buildings, beautiful mountains with paved hiking trails all the way to the top and gondolas to get down, Long queues that are still orderly and move quickly, families eating large meals outside, friendly and very curious people.

I've spent a lot of time there. Compared to the west the cost of living is super cheap especially for all the options and amenities you get. Even in the hippest part of Chongqing I could rent an apartment 2x the size of my house for half the mortgage. If the US is headed towards a permanent authoritarian regime I would trade life here for over there. At least their dictator appreciates science and education.

[-] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I would trade life here for over there.

If you are white... maybe

Otherwise... it isn't that pleasant...

[-] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

Complicated. Big.

A collection of a wide range of geography, languages, and peoples. Held together by a mix of national pride, iron fist, and a solid record of on the whole very good for most people improvements in life quality in living memory.

Big. Brazen. Splashy. But with an inability to face problems, and a resignation to the world as is. An almost fatalistic attitude paired with naïve or blind optimism on its dexter side.

A place filled with potential, as well as already existing food, culture, history. But hard to find much of it as modernity does a speed run towards uniformity and mass production, while historical sites are rebuilt as poured concrete facsimiles.

[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 weeks ago

Their authoritarian form of government which is definitely making me not want to ever visit China.

I am sure China is otherwise a wonderful country, I don't have a negative opinion of Taiwan at all, but the PRC needs their Gorbachev to come to power and liberate them.

Gorbachev did not exactly liberate them, not the Russian SFSR part of it... gestures at putin

[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago

That was the fault of the people who were in power after Gorbachev...

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[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

Technology city of Shenzhen, mountain range, great wall, Mulan, winnie the pooh, three kingdom, wuxia story, and mala peppercorn.

Ohh and it's my ancestral land.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Eh, it's a country. I do dig American Chinese food, I know it's not the same.

Chinese slave-workers helped build the American West, their contribution and sacrifice is rarely recognized.

[-] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Order. Conformity. Mystery. Impenetrable language. Impossible writing. Eating anything that moves. Mindless nationalism. People who don't talk or even care about politics. Depressed single young people obsessed with shopping. Security cameras. Police. Airport-sized train stations. Electric scooters. Electric cars. Utopian-dystopian sci-fi.

Yes, I have been there multiple times.

PS: to be clear, I was very, very impressed by those trains and especially by the electrification of city transport. In Shenzhen the air is now cleaner than any big city in the West and with all the greenery and silence it really does have a utopian feel. The progress there is genuine, it's amazing, it deserves lots and lots of credit.

Impossible writing.

Native Chinese speakers often forget how to write after they finish school. Especially exacerbated by technology. All you need to known is Pinyin.

Eating anything that moves.

My grandmother told me a joke, roughly translates to: "anything with 4 legs and with the back facing the sky, with the exception of a table, is food". I mean... there were famines, so you can't judge with western lens. You gotta eat whatever to survive.

People who don’t talk or even care about politics.

Its honestly the same with Americans. (to a lesser extent)

When I was in Highschool (in the US). Nobody in my classes seemed to be interested in voting. 🤦‍♂️

Depressed single young people obsessed with shopping.

Huh? I mean, I left when I was a kid so idk what this is, I never heard of this "obsessed with shopping" thing.

[-] RandomStickman@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago

My family would say "the only thing on the 12 zodiac we don't eat is the dragon only because it doesn't exist."

[-] biofaust@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Proper tea.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thiefs, low quality, dictatorship, murders, will probably try to fuck up my life in the future.

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[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

Very rich culture, and the government.

[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

The sets of fancy expensive-looking porcelain plates and cups my older relatives all had on display in a glass-fronted cabinet for use on some theoretical special occasion, but no occasion was ever actually special enough to allow anyone to use it.

[-] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The internet has really fucked my brain, because the first thing that comes up in my head is an old meme of The Orange One (back when he hadn't been president yet, and so was funny instead of scary) saying "CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA" (sorry)

AFTER that -- Disney's Mulan, and all the orientalist aesthetics that come with it (sorry²)

And AFTER that -- Years of internet discourse trying to convince me that a growth in Chinese international power would be worse than the US holding that position alone, which I find EXTREMELY hard to believe as a third world citizen whose home nation has been fucked in the butthole by the Americans like seven different times in lived memory (NOT sorry)

Then AFTER that -- The stories told by my one friend who lived there for a few months. To be honest they made China seem like a pretty cool place to live in. Or at the very least, a fun experience as an exchange student.

And AFTER all that -- Bootleg video games. They are interesting!

[-] JakeBacon@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

I always think about visiting due to the amazing natural and historical areas but simultaneously, how much I don't want to visit due to other issues.

Same with a lot of countries.

I yearn for the day when the world rid itself of all states, they are the source of evil.

[-] BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago
[-] badbrainstorm@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'm into Taoism, so I think of Lao Tzu, Chuang Tzu and Chinese philosophy. I love their sense of humor, and humility. I often daydream of a different life, being raised a monk in the Himalayas. A place I like to imagine when mediating

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Dragon Kilns. I am addicted to their live porcelain opening channels lol.

[-] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Rice field to magalopolis in a generation. Absolutely wild speed of seismic change.

Edit: megalopolis

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Horrific dictatorship that commits atrocities.

People that have been subjugated and oppressed and have little to no value as humans to the CCP.

Became a world power by exploiting the working class.

Beautiful country and amazing history.

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[-] daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I think of China as a country that pretends to be communist while making cheap products that vary in quality. I also think of the nice people that live there though.

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