We still have three years to go before the next election, assuming one actually happens.
At this stage in the game, the only thing that these types of polls are going to reveal is who has the most name recognition.
In other words, everyone calm down.
Thank you! Any time this kind of polling shows up on Lemmy, users seem to think this is the Plan of the Democratic Leadership Cabal, rather than an incredibly premature name recognition test.
People want to vote for people they have favorable impressions of who they also think others will vote for. Without other frontrunners, who emerge over time, it's not surprising that polled Democrats would recognize and still support the candidate that 75 million people voted for five months ago.
If you want other candidates (I do), identify them and figure out how to help them build their profile now.
Just like the polls that show McDonald's, Taco Bell, or Chic fil a as America's favorite restaurant in X state. It doesn't take too many idiots to outweigh everyone else.
Are you fucking kidding me.
AOC and Bernie over here amassing entire legions of working class people and they're over here bashing themselves in the nuts. doing a straw poll with corporate doners pretending like it means fucking ANYTHING.
GODAMNIT THESE FUCKING DEMOCRATS ARE FUCKING MORONS.
Perhaps time for a third party...
The problem is that I don't know how you'd get a third party off the ground. Modern third parties all seem to fall into the trap of going all in on a presidential at the expense of any potential down ballot races.
I think Bernie's suggestion of progressives running as independent is an interesting angle as it would be focused on down ballot races by its nature, and if you get enough independent progressives, they could coalesce into a new party down the line.
There's also the blockade that both established parties put up, as they very much enjoy their exclusive duopoly.
I like Harris just fine and she would have been a far better president than Donnie, but this is how JD Vance becomes President.
Bold to assume Trump 3 doesn't happen.
fucking morons.
people demanding progressives, but no, lets pretend conservative democrats have a fucking chance.
how tone-deaf can you fucking be.
Considering the Democratic Party has done this 3 times in a row and that they refuse to primary wildly unpopular members of their own party.
They are extremely tone deaf and out of touch with what the voters want. It’s why I want the progressives in the party to split off. The progressives are screwed if they stay, so why not leave and have an actual fucking chance?
Bernie Sanders got screwed over by the super delegates who all went for unpopular Hillary Clinton. Imagine how wildly different things would be if he was the Democratic nominee in 2016?
Considering the Democratic Party has done this 3 times in a row and that they refuse to primary wildly unpopular members of their own party.
The primaries are open to anybody who meets the requirements. We don't have to wait for "the party" to provide us with better candidates. The better candidates just have to follow the process to declare themselves a candidate. And then we just have to show up and vote for them.
Bernie Sanders got screwed over by the super delegates who all went for unpopular Hillary Clinton.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate#2016_election
Sanders initially said that the candidate with the majority of pledged delegates should be the nominee; in May 2016, after falling behind in the elected delegate count, he shifted, pushed for a contested convention and arguing that, "The responsibility that superdelegates have is to decide what is best for this country and what is best for the Democratic Party."[46][54] Ultimately, Clinton won the nomination without relying on the votes of superdelegates; she led Sanders by a substantial number of elected delegates (from primary and caucus votes), as well by a substantial margin in the popular vote.
Also at the top of that page:
In 2018, the Democratic National Committee reduced the influence of superdelegates by barring them from voting on the first ballot at the Democratic National Convention, allowing them to vote only in a contested convention.
Imagine how wildly different things would be if he was the Democratic nominee in 2016?
It's sad to think about how much better things could have been, and also if we had had Gore in 2000. But we shouldn't forget that Clinton won the primaries popular vote by enough that the superdelegates' votes didn't matter.
I still feel like Harris had to gave been handicapped on progressive policies from the DNC. There's simply no way, with her record and history, that she wouldn't have campaigned on a completely separate platform than Biden unless he, and the DNC forbid it. Now, that brings about a new set of issues; in which she was unable to stand up to the establishment and say, fuck you guys. She used to be pretty progressive in the senate and it all went away with the VP.
So, they prove once again that they don't learn.
Honestly I don't think she should run in 28. Nothing against Kamala, but we really don't need a moderate centrist insider to bring us back from the damage Trump is doing. The nation would be far better off having a real debate with Pete, Tim, and Alexandria up on stage. Kamala would have too much power over the process, and would use every bit of it. Which of course means that's exactly what's going to happen, probably handing us a narrow loss to fucking Don Jr. or some other moron puppet.
Also it's going to be a cold day in Hell before a woman wins.
Not true. It just needs to be the right's bottle blonde ditz christian good girl.
Jfc. They'll never learn. We really are all doomed.
Just kidding. We were doomed already.
Never get tired of losing
What the actual fuck. They never learn.
Good god please no. Not again.
Dems right now.
Mmore proof the neo liberal democratic party is a controlled opposition party who bows to the will of the same Wall Street military and prison industry profiteers that guide the policies of the right. Trump is going to be handed another 4 years after they repeal the 22nd amendment. this country is a fascist hellscape
Sure, let's do the same stupid shit again and expect different results.
No they fucking haven't.
I don't know who they're polling to come up with that trash. Dems didn't turn out for her in 2024 because she had no answers on the economy, and refused to admit Israel was genociding Palestinians, so they sure as shit aren't going to turn up for her in 2028--if there's even an election in 2028--when she still won't have any answers about the economy--which will likely be in full depression territory by then--and all she'll be able to do with Israel is say, "well, it's too late, all the Palestinians have been genocided, oh well).
No we fucking didn't. She can't win a primary against sanders.
Bernie Sanders is 83. He won't be running in the Presidential primaries.
Please don’t.
no just no no no please god no
we are so fucked.
Things the DNC has learned:
Was this a poll of the DNC or registered Democrats? Asking because ad blocker.
What the fuckkkkk
See you in 2032
Why? Jfc just learn for once.
DNC: "No."
Can't wait until she loses again to the same dipshit moron she lost to and we're blamed again for her horrid policy campaign, again.
lol
Both the Dems and Republicans have failed us...Maybe we should start looking to a third party that actually cares about the people.
Here's an idea, maybe field a compelling candidate who can beat Trump?
Crazy I know. I just don't know where it comes from sometimes.
If Trump is allowed to run again so is Obama. Not sure how everyone feels about that.
I'm GLAD the Democrats are Pushing the Woman who LOST against a Billionaire Nazi who Campaigned on RUINING America and American Lives!
This is why repubs don't have to cheat to win. Democrats will it into existence.
Who?
Seriously. I haven't seen a word from her since she lost. Meanwhile, Elizabeth Warren, Katie Porter, and of course AOC are posting and speaking publicly every day. Katie's running for governor of California and I will give her my vote when the time comes.
The DNC clearly has its head up somewhere dark and damp. Harris's campaign went flat as soon as they got involved.
This is First Past The Post in action. 2/3 of respondents selected someone other than her, yet she "wins" this poll.
Drop the bottom 1/3rd of the candidates, and revote. Repeat a couple times. This soon after the election, Harris's support is as high as it's going to get. Reduce the number of spoilers, and her numbers have nowhere to go but down.
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