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[-] stabryen@piefed.social 35 points 3 weeks ago

I think there's a strong case to argue that it is working.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 weeks ago

boy that font sucks.

it's working, but if you're avoiding taxes legally, FEIE(IRS form 2555), then they're not taking your money.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 weeks ago

If you're working for a wage while they reap the profit or subject to market forces they dictate, they're taking your money.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 weeks ago

correct.

if you don't want to give your money to this administration, I advise not doing that, as stated above.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Not to say that dodging federal taxes isn't either good or neutral, but the problem isn't specific to this administration.

Where are you living that the wealth you create doesn't end up in the hands of billionaires who then spend it on propaganda to convince you and others that that is just?

Cuba? Vietnam? Laos? China?

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 weeks ago

"Not to say that dodging federal taxes isn't either good or neutral, but the problem isn't specific to this administration."

phew, good thing nobody said it was.

"Where are you living that the wealth you create doesn't end up..."

doesn't matter where you are as long as you are outside of the US for 330 days of a tax year, not a calendar year.

if you are outside of the US for 330 days or more per tax year, you are not required to pay about $125,000 in earned income tax per year (the amount goes up each year).

if you have a remote job, all you have to do is travel to countries with better services and a cheaper cost of living(most countries).

if you don't have a remote job all you have to do find a remote job you like or if that is too difficult, travel to countries that hire English teachers(dozens of countries with thousands of current postings).

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

I am not talking about taxes, I am talking about the profit the capitalists make off your labor. The trillion dollar media empire OP is talking about, Fox News, CNN, Reddit, twitter, etc aren't funded by your taxes, though they are subservient to the state department.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 weeks ago

yea, like I said a few times, you should probably get out of that system.

[-] killingspark@feddit.org 5 points 3 weeks ago

You're missing the point. It's not the administration taking the money that's the problem. That's money (ideally) used to benefit everyone. The problem is the owner of the company taking a big share of the value you are producing with your labour.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

That’s money (ideally) used to benefit everyone.

Not really; the federal government prints money; they don't tax you to fund programs, they tax you to reduce the monetary supply.

State governments do have to be funded though.

[-] killingspark@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

Well, yeah, but because they don't want to increase monetary supply to keep inflation in check they need to tax you to fund their programs

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

They do increase the monetary supply though, in 2008 it was .9 trillion, in 2020 it was 6.4T, and now it's 5.6T.

Turns out inflation doesn't quite work the way most economics courses teach. That may be related to the way billionaires fund a lot of university's economics departments.

[-] killingspark@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

I didn't say they aren't increasing it at all, just that they aren't doing it for all their needs.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 weeks ago

sounds like you're missing the point.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

"They" is billionaires in general, not the Trump administration. Living in a foreign country isn't the loophole you think it is.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

""They" is billionaires in general, not the Trump administration"

one or all, I'd suggest getting out of billionaire clutches.

"Living in a foreign country isn't the loophole you think it is."

yeah it is, specifically for this situation that you're complaining about.

you want things to be futile and hopeless, but unfortunately for your ennui, there are simple solutions.

stop working for those billionaires, and stop paying money into their system.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

stop working for those billionaires

There is only a few countries you can move to that allows you to not contribute to those billionaires.

I'm not saying that fleeing the US isn't a good idea.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

"There is only a few countries you can move to that allows you to not contribute to those billionaires."

ask questions instead of making things up.

you are incorrect. there are dozens of countries you can teach in, contribute to education, help small business owners and keep all of your income.

"I'm not saying that fleeing the US isn't a good idea."

don't flee the us, leave it behind where it belongs.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Periphery countries still contribute to the system; the US doesn't have military bases in most of those countries by happenstance, but because keeping them in that position benefits the bourgeoisie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World-systems_theory

To be clear, the answer isn't to say everything is futile and hopeless, it's to participate in organizations which don't contribute to the system and build duel power within these countries, or just move to non-capitalist countries.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 weeks ago

governments, peripherally, but the system in talking about doesn't contribute to billionaires anywhere near the way you're contributing to them right now.

this is what you sound like to someone who actually understands how the system works:

you are stranded in Antarctica.

you loudly complain about how Antarctica is destroying your life, how the cold is invading your bones, how you can't grow any food and you have no opportunities.

a rescue boat shows up, and says they'll take you wherever you want.

you claim that because extreme weather exists at all, there's no point in going anywhere.

you scream your anxieties at the rescue boat until they leave you behind, per your wishes.

that is how you are living, and how you want others to live.

I'm on the other side, supported by facts, knowledge and experience.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

I literally listed countries where you wouldn't be meaningfully contributing to the system.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

great, i hope you understand that your list contributed to my point, rather than being an independent thought of your own.

Your list is inadequate and unhelpful with regards to the real world, so i offered practical ways one can thrive while not contributing to the system you're complaining about.

we're working together.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

you want things to be futile and hopeless

Fuck you. Quit lying.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not lying, everything I'm saying is supported by facts, knowledge and experience.

you're upset because people won't lie down and die with you.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You have "facts, knowledge and experience" about what I want? Bullshit. You are not fucking entitled to tell me what my own opinion is, so quit trying to condescend at me!

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

about living outside of the system you are complaining about.

about not resigning yourself to being a squealing, melodramatic pauper.

I'm not telling you what your opinion is, I'm telling you that you are wrong by complaining that there's no way to not contribute to these billionaires.

you are factually incorrect. as I said multiple times, yhere are simple solutions to that problem.

that worries you because your coping mechanism apparently is to complain that nothing can be done until you perish, beckoning for others to join you in vain.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

This is not about "living outside of the system." This is about you being a condescending bully and troll who tried to dictate to me what my own opinion is.

How many times do I have to tell you to go fuck yourself?

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

"This is not about "living outside of the system."

that's a simple solution to what you are complaining about.

"tried to dictate to me what my own opinion is."

you can have all the opinions your want, I'm correcting your factual errors.

"How many times do I have to tell you to go fuck yourself?"

none, that's your shame and anxiety encouraging you to lash out repeatedly.

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago

(feedback appreciated)

[-] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

The only reason the owning class is able to legally pay so little in taxes is because the owning class has been bribing politicians to create tax loopholes for generations. They're still taking your money.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

not my money.

[-] Commiunism@beehaw.org 11 points 3 weeks ago

It literally is working, and ironically, many people nodding in agreement to this post are very likely to be affected as well without realizing.

[-] Zier@fedia.io 5 points 3 weeks ago

It's not working. We need to tax the rich. It's time to harass our governments until they comply with taxing the rich.

[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 3 points 3 weeks ago

I deleted all of my socials, so good luck.

[-] SuDmit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago

Why, we can't just let all those money spent be wasted, it better be working! /s

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