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[-] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Are we really still doing this?

Honestly it seems like liberals hate their own base more than the reactionaries they are supposedly the opposition to

Actually that tracks, since most of the DNC has been flirting with reactionary commentators and billionaires while actively criticizing the one part of their party actually building momentum

[-] knightly@pawb.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

Pointless statements from liberals who are too busy trying to find someone to blame to do anything useful about the galloping fascism in their midst.

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 points 3 weeks ago

Seriously. Same old useless shit as always.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

It's wild that they're angry at people for not wanting to be complicit w a genocide rather than the people who forced us to choose between 2 genociders or even the genociders themselves.

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[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

How long will I have to drag out this meme? It's April...

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[-] mlg@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Alienates voter base by refusing to meet constituent demands or running a proper primary

"It must be these damn 3rd party voters, that's why we lost every single swing state"

[-] pno2nr@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Keep trashing them, that will bring em over.

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[-] Bristingr@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not going to blame the 3rd party voters. At least they voted.

Put your anger towards those who couldn't even be bothered to do so.

[-] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

3rd party voter here. Let's stop hating fellow poors and collectively hate the rich and powerful who are really responsible

[-] Bristingr@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago
[-] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

Except those ones, hate the shit out of Nazis of course. Maga or otherwise

[-] Sprawl@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

If you’re MAGA at this point, you’re okay with Nazis.

[-] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah that's what Im saying fuck Nazis

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[-] Grazed@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I feel sorry for Americans. The best of the 2 viable parties is a party keen on supplying a genocide, and somehow if you vote 3rd party you're more responsible than said genocide suppliers, even worse republicans, and non-voters. That's wild.

The uncomfortable reality is that you aren't gonna solve your country's problems in the voting booths. Good luck to you, genuinely.

[-] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

The uncomfortable reality is that you aren’t gonna solve your country’s problems in the voting booths

Until the majority of liberals in our country realize this, it's doubtful our problems will be solved at all

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[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 1 points 3 weeks ago

I swear to God it's the same 5 accounts on Lemmy posting this horse-shit take.

Like - all the third party voters combined would not have kept Trump out of office. Give it up. It's nonsense and frankly pretty sad.

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 1 points 3 weeks ago

I sorta disagree.

I think the campaign used to push people third party encouraged others to just not vote.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 1 points 3 weeks ago

Even IF that's true it's still terrible. What do you think? You're gonna chastise people into agreeing with you? Is some "holier-than-though" attitude gonna do it?

Really just seems like a circlejerk

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 0 points 3 weeks ago

No I'm just saying people who think protest voting or throwing your vote away is ever smart, this is proof it isn't.

This really entirely could've been avoided and this was one of the steps in a stairwell of bullshit that could've stopped it all

[-] saltesc@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

The fundamental idea of democracy is that you have your say. Even if the outcome isn't your's, your vote showed how much people wanted the other things, this influencing the group that got it.

Your thinking anti-democratically. You are chastising individual voices in the system for not doing what you wanted for your outcome. That's literally how authoritarianism starts. Check yourself.

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[-] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

It's also a false statement.

The final numbers show Trump with 2.3 million more votes. 77.3 million (49.8%) vs 75 million (48.3%) of the total vote. Third part candidates, including write-ins, were 2.13% of the vote. 2.97 million people voted third party or write in. This is also not counting the 90 million that didn’t vote but where registered.

If every single third party voter voted Harris, she would have won.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_and_independent_candidates_for_the_2024_United_States_presidential_election

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That's.... Not how US elections work. Otherwise Hillary would've won 2016

Looking at the state results it doesn't appear that any state would've flipped blue if all third party voters excluding Robert Kennedy and Oliveros (libertarian) voters because they definitely would not have gone Harris went Harris. Even if you count the right wing 3rd party ones she only would've won 2 more states and still lost.

If we used the popular vote I definitely would've voted Harris, but as it is Trump was going to win my state by huge margins so I just voted who I really wanted knowing it made no difference. In races other than president I went Dem.

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[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

Obviously the solution is for more people to vote third party

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 weeks ago

Not without an elimination of FPTP ya don't.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Actually, having a progressive party and a conservative party would be far better than having a conservative party and fascist party.

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