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submitted 2 days ago by Lumberjacked@lemm.ee to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I get the boycotts for Target, Walmart, and Amazon for rolling back their DEI programs and bowing to Trump. What companies are treating employees fair or standing up for human decency? Seems like Costco gets brought up?

Most things I need I can get from my local grocery store which seems pretty non evil but where do you go if you need like a new keyboard?

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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)
[-] bizzle@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago
[-] Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 23 hours ago
[-] zenforyen@feddit.org 21 points 1 day ago

Bandcamp, because it is the best place for independent music and there is nothing close to it.

Steam, because they started with non-horrible DRM (compared to other options) and now they are one of the companies that help Linux succeed for gaming (Steam Deck is just a Linux computer with controllers attached, and Proton is awesome for running Windows games on Linux).

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago

Bandcamp: Semi. Because it was owned by Epic.
Dunno how bad it's with Songtradr.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 14 points 21 hours ago

Steam, because they started with non-horrible DRM (compared to other options)

Au contraire, Steam was LOATHED back in the day, they were the first to force you to install a store just to play a single game.

For other games, you needed to enter a CD key on install (which keygens helped with) and then you needed the CD itself in the drive (which cracks helped with). Steam started the trend of online DRM in games, which was then adopted by others who made even more draconian offerings (I think for Spore you could only get 3 hardware IDs registered?)

[-] zenforyen@feddit.org 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Ah good point, totally forgot the early times, I was too young back then I guess. Okay then the impact of Steam is kind of mixed then. From practical experience it is more up to the game developers to enforce or not enforce it and often in practice especially indie games are DRM free or it is easy to circumvent. Steam at least does not install some surveillance rootkit on your system. And I'd claim that it plays about the same role in the indie game ecosystem as Bandcamp plays for music and GitHub plays for open source software, at least that is my impression.

And contra Bandcamp is of course, they recently sold out i.e. got bought by some larger fish with totally different but music legal stuff related business and Bandcamp lost a lot of employees. But at least for now I don't see drastic enshittification ot Bandcamp yet.

I guess ultimately there is no perfect saint company, they are entities that must generate profit, and only sometimes it really means making customers happy, but more often than not it doesn't - that's just capitalism, how it works everywhere.

[-] deathbird@mander.xyz 11 points 22 hours ago

If there's a place that you just can't stomach to shop because of how they treat their employees then I highly recommend you do not shop there. I was avoiding Walmart before avoiding Walmart was cool.

However...

Boycotts only really work when organized, towards an end goal. What was Walmart doing before, what is it doing now, what do we want it to do, and who's coordinating? That's how you change corporate policy through boycott.

If certain DEI policies are important enough to you to boycott when a company removes them then that's fine. I guess it's also worth asking what it is about any given program that makes it good enough for not, which companies should or shouldn't have it, why, and all that.

[-] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago
[-] piranhaphish@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago

I'm not sure if it's still true, but I seem to recall SC Johnson having profits as the lowest of their corporate objectives with higher ones being things like improving people's lives and bringing value to the world.

Granted, it's all just text, and times change, but I'd be curious to know if there's any truth to it, especially today.

[-] Mister_Hangman@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

You mean the fuckers who gave kids cancer with talcom powder and have done everything in their power to not pay damages?

Yeah. Fuck. That.

[-] piranhaphish@lemmy.world 14 points 22 hours ago

Nope. That's Johnson & Johnson. Different company.

[-] Mister_Hangman@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

Bruh if my company was named SC Johnson after what Johnson and Johnson has been up to I’d change my company name to avoid what dumb asses like me just assumed.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 7 points 22 hours ago

I believe you mean Johnson & Johnson, which is a different company.

No idea about the morals of SC Johnson, I hadn't heard of them till now, but have used a product or 2.

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 22 hours ago

If its publicly traded, you can bet it sucks.

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[-] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 6 points 1 day ago
[-] lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 23 hours ago

Only as long as Gabe Newell runs it. After that it will enshittify like any other company that needs to make profits.

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 5 points 23 hours ago

Private equity is salivating over the idea of ~~running his carefully built brand into the ground~~maximizing value extraction from steam.

The current meta here is that things like brand loyalty and reputation are not really worth preserving, and are only as good as whatever short-term gains you can squeeze out of them.

[-] GoodLuckToFriends@lemmy.today 6 points 19 hours ago

Supposedly gaben has threatened to release code in a death switch that would make every steam user able to play their games without phoning home.

I know that I would never buy another game if steam went down the toilet. Piracy was fun when I was a kid, and I bet it could be fun again.

[-] mooncake@lemm.ee 2 points 22 hours ago

Let's hope musket doesn't buy it.

[-] HailSeitan@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago
[-] vfsh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 51 points 1 day ago

Dr Bronners soap has specifically reaffirmed their DEI policies since Trump's reelection, and they have a 5-to-1 cap on the top-level exec's salaries compared to their lowest paid retirement-vested employees. They seem to walk the walk from what I've seen and read.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Holy shit. Imagine if more companies did the 5 to 1 cap thing.

Even at 20 to one it would drastically change some company payscales.

Needs to apply to "bonuses" so there's no loopholes though.

[-] EaterOfLentils@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago

King Arthur Flour!

[-] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 day ago

I don't really believe in ethical consumption, but Penzys spices are awesome! They're such troll too, I love it!

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

The only one that comes directly to mind is Valve.

Besides that I'm not going to follow this narrative too much of finding "the good ones".

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 116 points 2 days ago

ACAB: All Corporations Are Bastards. Corporations are not your friends. Brands aren’t your friends.

Stop letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.

[-] Anise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 22 hours ago

Yup. Everyone has to buy something. The point is to direct people to do that at places that are LES evil rather than giving in and saying "nothing matters I guess I'll just do whatever." Defeatism is collaboration.

[-] Lumberjacked@lemm.ee 57 points 2 days ago

I used to not vote because all politicians are evil. Someone pointed out that if everyone picks the lesser of two evils then things are going to get less evil. I’ve voted every opportunity since.

Corporations are just legal structure organizing people together to do something. The soup kitchen, local artisan, person cutting hair out of their house, they all set up an LLC to operate under. They didn’t instantly become evil.

But if I need to buy a blender, plywood, or underwear (my shopping list this weekend), I’m going to have to buy it from a corporation. If I could buy it from a less evil corp then hopefully I make things less evil.

[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago

One way to fight the corporations is to stop worshipping at the altar of blind consumerism, and embrace the concept of "Reuse, Repair, Recycle."

Stop buying stuff you dont need. Keep using what you have, sell/buy used items, repair things, and if it cant be fixed or repurposed, then recycle it.

Repairing things is a big one. Often repairs are remarkably easy. My wife has been ready to replace numerous appliances over the years, and I figured it was worth taking a shot at fixing it, if I can save a few hundred bucks, and successfully extended the life by years.

Very satisfying, and it forces your wife to rethink her conclusion that you are an incompetent dolt.

[-] Lumberjacked@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago

Sorry. My underwear is beyond repair

[-] GoodLuckToFriends@lemmy.today 2 points 19 hours ago

I hear some people enjoy that particular fashion statement.

[-] Anise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 22 hours ago

lol. Intimates are poorly constructed, but we also ask a lot of them. In all seriousness though, I have repaired undies and bras and gotten another 6 months to a year out of them.

[-] Sickos@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In the prosecution of its purposes, the Slave Power has obtained the control of both the great political parties. Their recent nominations were made to serve its interests, to secure its supremacy, and especially to promote the extension of Slavery.

....

I hear the old political saw, that "we must take the least of two evils." My friend from Ohio [Mr. Giddings] has already riddled this excuse, so that I might well leave it untouched; but I cannot forbear a brief observation. It is admitted, then, that Cass and Taylor both are evils. For myself, if two evils are presented to me, I will take neither. There are occasions of political difference, I admit, when it may become expedient to vote for a candidate who does not completely represent our sentiments. There are matters legitimately within the range of expediency and compromise. The Tariff and the Currency are of this character. If a candidate differs from me on these more or less, I may yet vote for him. But the question before the country is of another character. This will not admit of compromise. It is not within the domain of expediency. To be wrong on this is to be wholly wrong. It is not merely expedient for us to defend Freedom, when assailed, but our duty so to do, unreservedly, and careless of consequences.

-Abolitionist Charles Sumner, encouraging a third party vote in the 1848 election

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[-] multifariace@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Voting for lesser evil just slows down the evil, it doesn't reverse it. It's still going in the wrong direction.

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[-] rabber@lemmy.ca 64 points 2 days ago
[-] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

It should be noted that they are actively trying to bust their workers union so maybe boycott them when your local asks you to.

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[-] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 days ago

NetBSD, Signal Foundation, other FOSS orgs

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